Bluetooth Security flaws

Posted: 11-17-2003, 10:22 AM
It seems there is something more sinister to bluejacking after all.

The Register
http://212.100.234.54/content/55/34007.html

White Paper on SNARF and BACKDOOR attacks
http://www.bluestumbler.org/



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Re: Bluetooth Security flaws
Posted: 11-17-2003, 11:17 AM
"jren57" <jren57@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> It seems there is something more sinister to bluejacking after all.
>
> The Register
> http://212.100.234.54/content/55/34007.html
>
> White Paper on SNARF and BACKDOOR attacks
> http://www.bluestumbler.org/
>


Nice link, very interesting. Seems even my relatively archaic 6310i is
susceptible to attack (which is sooo unfair, seems I should have at least
*one* advantage by not having a fancy new series 60 phone), although there's
not much on there that'd be useful to them!

It'll be interesting to see if there're many "hackers" that'd take much of
an interest in this above the proof-of-concept phase, 'cause if I'm lucky to
get bluetooth working when the devices are 6-8m apart with legit pairing,
they'd more or less have to be sat on my knee to get anything useful when
I'm out and about!


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Re: Bluetooth Security flaws
Posted: 11-17-2003, 11:41 AM
G - typed:
> "jren57" <jren57@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:bpa7ht$mo8$1@titan.btinternet.com...
>> It seems there is something more sinister to bluejacking after all.
>>
>> The Register
>> http://212.100.234.54/content/55/34007.html
>>
>> White Paper on SNARF and BACKDOOR attacks
>> http://www.bluestumbler.org/
>>

>
> Nice link, very interesting. Seems even my relatively archaic 6310i is
> susceptible to attack (which is sooo unfair, seems I should have at
> least *one* advantage by not having a fancy new series 60 phone),
> although there's not much on there that'd be useful to them!
>
> It'll be interesting to see if there're many "hackers" that'd take
> much of an interest in this above the proof-of-concept phase, 'cause
> if I'm lucky to get bluetooth working when the devices are 6-8m apart
> with legit pairing, they'd more or less have to be sat on my knee to
> get anything useful when I'm out and about!


Security to me is keeping ahead of hackers & seems to be a continuous
battle. There are flaws with GSM encryption, the new 802.11x protocols
have weaknesses etc, etc but allowing 248 characters in the pairing
field is a bit silly, all the more reason to not leave devices in a
discoverable state.


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Re: Bluetooth Security flaws
Posted: 11-17-2003, 11:44 AM

"G" <cool_and_funky@*-nospamthanks_*yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "jren57" <jren57@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:bpa7ht$mo8$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> > It seems there is something more sinister to bluejacking after all.
> >
> > The Register
> > http://212.100.234.54/content/55/34007.html
> >
> > White Paper on SNARF and BACKDOOR attacks
> > http://www.bluestumbler.org/
> >

>
> Nice link, very interesting. Seems even my relatively archaic 6310i is
> susceptible to attack (which is sooo unfair, seems I should have at least
> *one* advantage by not having a fancy new series 60 phone), although

there's
> not much on there that'd be useful to them!
>
> It'll be interesting to see if there're many "hackers" that'd take much of
> an interest in this above the proof-of-concept phase, 'cause if I'm lucky

to
> get bluetooth working when the devices are 6-8m apart with legit pairing,
> they'd more or less have to be sat on my knee to get anything useful when
> I'm out and about!
>

It looks like the only phone that can be attacked when NO VISIBLE is the
Nokia 6310.

But anyone (and I know several) who leaves their BT phone 'visible' is just
asking for trouble. After all, being able to detect other BT devices was one
of the great selling points of BT.

I always pair devices and ALWAYS make sure none of my phones are visible

Clive


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Re: Bluetooth Security flaws
Posted: 11-17-2003, 04:01 PM

"Clive" <someone@NOTHANKS.com> wrote in message
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> I always pair devices and ALWAYS make sure none of my phones are visible


The paper mentions the problem occurs after they have been paired and the
paired device has been deleted although it does mention the need to be
"visible"


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Re: Bluetooth Security flaws
Posted: 12-14-2003, 11:25 PM
The Sony Ericcson T610 is also vulnerable, I've tried it. Every single 6310i
and T610 I've tried to bluejack were easy and successful prey.

"Clive" <someone@NOTHANKS.com> wrote in message
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>
> "G" <cool_and_funky@*-nospamthanks_*yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:r42ub.3381$537.2417@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > "jren57" <jren57@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > news:bpa7ht$mo8$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> > > It seems there is something more sinister to bluejacking after all.
> > >
> > > The Register
> > > http://212.100.234.54/content/55/34007.html
> > >
> > > White Paper on SNARF and BACKDOOR attacks
> > > http://www.bluestumbler.org/
> > >

> >
> > Nice link, very interesting. Seems even my relatively archaic 6310i is
> > susceptible to attack (which is sooo unfair, seems I should have at

least
> > *one* advantage by not having a fancy new series 60 phone), although

> there's
> > not much on there that'd be useful to them!
> >
> > It'll be interesting to see if there're many "hackers" that'd take much

of
> > an interest in this above the proof-of-concept phase, 'cause if I'm

lucky
> to
> > get bluetooth working when the devices are 6-8m apart with legit

pairing,
> > they'd more or less have to be sat on my knee to get anything useful

when
> > I'm out and about!
> >

> It looks like the only phone that can be attacked when NO VISIBLE is the
> Nokia 6310.
>
> But anyone (and I know several) who leaves their BT phone 'visible' is

just
> asking for trouble. After all, being able to detect other BT devices was

one
> of the great selling points of BT.
>
> I always pair devices and ALWAYS make sure none of my phones are visible
>
> Clive
>
>



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Re: Bluetooth Security flaws
Posted: 12-15-2003, 12:25 AM

> The Sony Ericcson T610 is also vulnerable, I've tried it. Every single

6310i
> and T610 I've tried to bluejack were easy and successful prey.


Bluejacking isn't exactly exploiting a vulnerability though, more like a
fairly pointless, rather geeky trick.


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Re: Bluetooth Security flaws
Posted: 12-15-2003, 04:12 AM
"Lenny" <you@wish.haha> wrote in message
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>
> > The Sony Ericcson T610 is also vulnerable, I've tried it. Every single

> 6310i
> > and T610 I've tried to bluejack were easy and successful prey.

>
> Bluejacking isn't exactly exploiting a vulnerability though, more like a
> fairly pointless, rather geeky trick.
>


Lenny is correct. Have a look on this article for more info:
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=1900

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Re: Bluetooth Security flaws
Posted: 12-15-2003, 06:11 PM

"Gloster Meteor" <email@removethis.yasint.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The Sony Ericcson T610 is also vulnerable, I've tried it. Every single

6310i
> and T610 I've tried to bluejack were easy and successful prey.
>
> "Clive" <someone@NOTHANKS.com> wrote in message
> news:Ew2ub.2303$4E7.20974721@news-text.cableinet.net...
> >
> > "G" <cool_and_funky@*-nospamthanks_*yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:r42ub.3381$537.2417@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > > "jren57" <jren57@nospam.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bpa7ht$mo8$1@titan.btinternet.com...
> > > > It seems there is something more sinister to bluejacking after all.
> > > >
> > > > The Register
> > > > http://212.100.234.54/content/55/34007.html
> > > >
> > > > White Paper on SNARF and BACKDOOR attacks
> > > > http://www.bluestumbler.org/
> > > >
> > >
> > > Nice link, very interesting. Seems even my relatively archaic 6310i is
> > > susceptible to attack (which is sooo unfair, seems I should have at

> least
> > > *one* advantage by not having a fancy new series 60 phone), although

> > there's
> > > not much on there that'd be useful to them!
> > >
> > > It'll be interesting to see if there're many "hackers" that'd take

much
> of
> > > an interest in this above the proof-of-concept phase, 'cause if I'm

> lucky
> > to
> > > get bluetooth working when the devices are 6-8m apart with legit

> pairing,
> > > they'd more or less have to be sat on my knee to get anything useful

> when
> > > I'm out and about!
> > >

> > It looks like the only phone that can be attacked when NO VISIBLE is the
> > Nokia 6310.
> >
> > But anyone (and I know several) who leaves their BT phone 'visible' is

> just
> > asking for trouble. After all, being able to detect other BT devices was

> one
> > of the great selling points of BT.
> >
> > I always pair devices and ALWAYS make sure none of my phones are visible
> >
> > Clive
> >
> >

>
>


hummm, bluejacking, www.bluejackq.com

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