NK 6600 upgraded from Orange 4.09.1 to generic 5.27.0!!

On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:40:32 -0000, "Steve Terry"
<g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote:

>
>"eggster2k" <eggster2k@nospambreathe.com> wrote in message
>news:h4a8o0hmo63q7raj6edor30ud7oinkfmhk@4ax.com.. .
>> Yesterday I took my Orange branded 6600 to my usual Club Nokia
>> authorized service centre to have the firmware upgraded from 4.09.1
>> (orange customized) to 5.27.0. When i picked up the phone I was
>> expecting an orange customized 5.27 (not a problem to me) but to my
>> surprise they said they've put the standard generic 5.27 firmware on!
>> Brilliant. So, the talk on these newsgroups about the automatic
>> firmware choosing devices service centres use is prob just crap!
>> Chris
>>
>All depends if the engineer followed Cub Nokia policy,
>and used expensive Nokia hardware, or not?
>
>Then risk Nokia sanctions, there are many cheap unofficial
>DCT4 hardware options these days.
>
>Steve Terry
>
>
I would not have thought that a main Nokia Service Centre would be
using cheap unofficial hardware!


Chris P Bacon

"Chris P Bacon" <andy.haigh@XbreatheX.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 10:40:32 -0000, "Steve Terry"
> <g4wwk@despammed.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"eggster2k" <eggster2k@nospambreathe.com> wrote in message
>>news:h4a8o0hmo63q7raj6edor30ud7oinkfmhk@4ax.com. ..
>>> Yesterday I took my Orange branded 6600 to my usual Club Nokia
>>> authorized service centre to have the firmware upgraded from 4.09.1
>>> (orange customized) to 5.27.0. When i picked up the phone I was
>>> expecting an orange customized 5.27 (not a problem to me) but to my
>>> surprise they said they've put the standard generic 5.27 firmware on!
>>> Brilliant. So, the talk on these newsgroups about the automatic
>>> firmware choosing devices service centres use is prob just crap!
>>> Chris
>>>
>>All depends if the engineer followed Cub Nokia policy,
>>and used expensive Nokia hardware, or not?
>>
>>Then risk Nokia sanctions, there are many cheap unofficial
>>DCT4 hardware options these days.
>>
>>Steve Terry
>>
>>
> I would not have thought that a main Nokia Service Centre would be
> using cheap unofficial hardware!

Neither would I TBH, but stranger things have been known. I think this is
more likely a case of a genuine mistake being made, or there being a problem
with the customised PPM belonging to the version of the MCU that was
flashed - hence the generic PPM being flashed instead. Some (not many
though) CNSC's will put unbranded firmware on a branded handset, but they'll
keep very quiet about it given the possible ramifications if Nokia ever
found out.

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On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:01:09 GMT, "Richard Colton"
<webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote:

>Neither would I TBH, but stranger things have been known. I think this is
>more likely a case of a genuine mistake being made, or there being a problem
>with the customised PPM belonging to the version of the MCU that was
>flashed - hence the generic PPM being flashed instead. Some (not many
>though) CNSC's will put unbranded firmware on a branded handset, but they'll
>keep very quiet about it given the possible ramifications if Nokia ever
>found out.

As i said earlier, i took the phone in and just asked them to upgrade
the firmware, i didn't ask for a generic firmware as the orange
branding on the 6600 isn't at all bad. When i picked up the phone they
didn't keep it a secret, she told me they'd put a generic firmware on,
fine by me.

"Brian Morrison" <scrapspam@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
newsan.2004.10.31.20.44.46.160950@fenrir.org.uk. ..
> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:01:09 +0000, in article
> <pT8hd.3343$up1.4@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk> "Richard Colton"
> <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Some (not many
>> though) CNSC's will put unbranded firmware on a branded handset, but
>> they'll
>> keep very quiet about it given the possible ramifications if Nokia ever
>> found out.
>
> Makes you wonder why Nokia care about what is done to a customer's own
> property.

They probably don't in all truth, however, the networks obviously do care
(or they wouldn't bastardise handsets in the first place), and Nokia will
care how many phones they sell to the networks - so in other words they
won't do anything to upset the networks.

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"eggster2k" <eggster2k@nospambreathe.com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 31 Oct 2004 17:01:09 GMT, "Richard Colton"
> <webmaster@NOSPAMuselessinfo.org.uk> wrote:
>
>>Neither would I TBH, but stranger things have been known. I think this is
>>more likely a case of a genuine mistake being made, or there being a
>>problem
>>with the customised PPM belonging to the version of the MCU that was
>>flashed - hence the generic PPM being flashed instead. Some (not many
>>though) CNSC's will put unbranded firmware on a branded handset, but
>>they'll
>>keep very quiet about it given the possible ramifications if Nokia ever
>>found out.
>
> As i said earlier, i took the phone in and just asked them to upgrade
> the firmware, i didn't ask for a generic firmware as the orange
> branding on the 6600 isn't at all bad. When i picked up the phone they
> didn't keep it a secret, she told me they'd put a generic firmware on,
> fine by me.

Absolutely, don't look a gift horse in the mouth and all that.

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Brian Morrison reckoned that...
> Makes you wonder why Nokia care about what is done to a customer's own
> property.

It's quite straightforward really, network operators are by far and away
Nokia's biggest customer. Therefore Nokia does what the customer
(network operator - you are merely an 'end-user') tell them to, and that
usually includes directives along the lines of "thou shalt flash end-
user handsets with whatever we tell thee to"
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"Brian Morrison" <scrapspam@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 01 Nov 2004 09:21:08 +0000, in article
> <MPG.1bf010628471fede989738@news.plus.net> Jon <spam@unlockingshop.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Brian Morrison reckoned that...
>>> Makes you wonder why Nokia care about what is done to a customer's own
>>> property.
>>
>> It's quite straightforward really, network operators are by far and away
>> Nokia's biggest customer. Therefore Nokia does what the customer
>> (network operator - you are merely an 'end-user') tell them to, and that
>> usually includes directives along the lines of "thou shalt flash end-
>> user handsets with whatever we tell thee to"
>
> I know that, but once it is the customer's property I can't see why they
> shouldn't replace the unwanted branded crap with the generic equivalent
> without having the only official source of firmware updates refuse them
> because their network operator has their head inserted in a privy orifice.

Couldn't agree more, but I can't see it changing in the near future.

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