Re: 3300 again

Posted: 11-08-2003, 06:13 AM
On Sat, 8 Nov 2003 11:26:21 +0200, "Graham Barr" <gdi@iafrica.com> wrote:

|> I asked about the problem with the music player and the aeroplane.
|> Now if I put in a non-connecting simcard - a contractual one where the
|> contract is terminated so it makes no connection.
|> Is it the "attempt to connect" and fail that would be a problem for aircraft
|> electronics or the "connection itself".
|> Thanks for any opinion.
|>

You should be fine. it's not the FAA your messing with it's the FCC.
It's the fact you come into and out of so many towers when flying they are
involved. your not using their towers - no problem.
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Graham Barr
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3300 again
Posted: 11-08-2003, 09:26 AM
I asked about the problem with the music player and the aeroplane.
Now if I put in a non-connecting simcard - a contractual one where the
contract is terminated so it makes no connection.
Is it the "attempt to connect" and fail that would be a problem for aircraft
electronics or the "connection itself".
Thanks for any opinion.


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Re: 3300 again
Posted: 11-08-2003, 09:39 AM
Graham Barr wrote:
> I asked about the problem with the music player and the aeroplane.
> Now if I put in a non-connecting simcard - a contractual one where the
> contract is terminated so it makes no connection.
> Is it the "attempt to connect" and fail that would be a problem for
> aircraft electronics or the "connection itself".
> Thanks for any opinion.



yes because the transmitter side of the phone will still be active and would
remain active while the phone was powered



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Re: 3300 again
Posted: 11-09-2003, 11:37 PM

"sluff" <winterproject2003@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Graham Barr wrote:
> > I asked about the problem with the music player and the aeroplane.
> > Now if I put in a non-connecting simcard - a contractual one where the
> > contract is terminated so it makes no connection.
> > Is it the "attempt to connect" and fail that would be a problem for
> > aircraft electronics or the "connection itself".
> > Thanks for any opinion.

>
>
> yes because the transmitter side of the phone will still be active and

would
> remain active while the phone was powered


indeed, even though the network wouldn't accept the SIM, the phone would
still be trying to log on, hence transmitting.

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Re: 3300 again
Posted: 11-10-2003, 05:38 AM
"Martin Crosbie" <MartincrosbieDONTBOTHER@vodafone.net> wrote in message
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| "sluff" <winterproject2003@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
| news:boidl7$1e3epb$1@ID-205360.news.uni-berlin.de...
| > Graham Barr wrote:
| > > I asked about the problem with the music player and the aeroplane.
| > > Now if I put in a non-connecting simcard - a contractual one where the
| > > contract is terminated so it makes no connection.
| > > Is it the "attempt to connect" and fail that would be a problem for
| > > aircraft electronics or the "connection itself".
| > > Thanks for any opinion.
| >
| >
| > yes because the transmitter side of the phone will still be active and
| would
| > remain active while the phone was powered
|
| indeed, even though the network wouldn't accept the SIM, the phone would
| still be trying to log on, hence transmitting.
|
| Martin Crosbie
|
|

if it was a DCT3, i guess we could turn off the transmitter by netmonitor
menu45...hehe


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Re: 3300 again
Posted: 11-11-2003, 03:21 AM

"tuned by RÄZO" <NOSPAMmillajovovich@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> "Martin Crosbie" <MartincrosbieDONTBOTHER@vodafone.net> wrote in message
> news:bomjff$fl4$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
> |
> | "sluff" <winterproject2003@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> | news:boidl7$1e3epb$1@ID-205360.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | > Graham Barr wrote:
> | > > I asked about the problem with the music player and the aeroplane.
> | > > Now if I put in a non-connecting simcard - a contractual one where

the
> | > > contract is terminated so it makes no connection.
> | > > Is it the "attempt to connect" and fail that would be a problem for
> | > > aircraft electronics or the "connection itself".
> | > > Thanks for any opinion.
> | >
> | >
> | > yes because the transmitter side of the phone will still be active and
> | would
> | > remain active while the phone was powered
> |
> | indeed, even though the network wouldn't accept the SIM, the phone would
> | still be trying to log on, hence transmitting.
> |
> | Martin Crosbie
> |
> |
>
> if it was a DCT3, i guess we could turn off the transmitter by netmonitor
> menu45...hehe


indeed. If it's that simple why can't it be done? perhaps the same reason
you can't send stuff by IR on a series 40 phone. it's useful, and useful
means bad in the nokia dictionary.

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Re: 3300 again
Posted: 11-14-2003, 08:45 AM

"Martin Crosbie" <MartincrosbieDONTBOTHER@vodafone.net> wrote in message
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| "tuned by RÄZO" <NOSPAMmillajovovich@softhome.net> wrote in message
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| > "Martin Crosbie" <MartincrosbieDONTBOTHER@vodafone.net> wrote in message
| > news:bomjff$fl4$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk...
| > |
| > | "sluff" <winterproject2003@nospam.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
| > | news:boidl7$1e3epb$1@ID-205360.news.uni-berlin.de...
| > | > Graham Barr wrote:
| > | > > I asked about the problem with the music player and the aeroplane.
| > | > > Now if I put in a non-connecting simcard - a contractual one where
| the
| > | > > contract is terminated so it makes no connection.
| > | > > Is it the "attempt to connect" and fail that would be a problem
for
| > | > > aircraft electronics or the "connection itself".
| > | > > Thanks for any opinion.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > yes because the transmitter side of the phone will still be active
and
| > | would
| > | > remain active while the phone was powered
| > |
| > | indeed, even though the network wouldn't accept the SIM, the phone
would
| > | still be trying to log on, hence transmitting.
| > |
| > | Martin Crosbie
| > |
| > |
| >
| > if it was a DCT3, i guess we could turn off the transmitter by
netmonitor
| > menu45...hehe
|
| indeed. If it's that simple why can't it be done? perhaps the same reason
| you can't send stuff by IR on a series 40 phone. it's useful, and useful
| means bad in the nokia dictionary.
|
| Martin Crosbie
|
|

Yup.. compare 2002 and 2003 (current mono screen models) - the older ones
have WAP and IR.. (5210 etc) whereas the newer 2100, 3610 don't have one or
both (of Wap/IR).... but the 6610 etc has GPRS, IR, WAP.... i think its a
marketing strategy to sell more expensive models (clr screens) than the mono
screens.


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