Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising

Posted: 10-19-2003, 01:07 AM
I'm not meaning to cause an argument here, but is anyone else finding the
advertisements for OPMII at EVERY opportunity verging on spam?

I have no problem at all with somebody recommending something to me to solve
a problem, but not when there are quicker, cheaper, and perfectly good
alternative ways of solving the same problems - it's simply bad advice.

Over the past few of weeks I've seen people asking about several problems
(e.g. deleting ring tones and pictures) which can be solved by simply using
the built in phone menus. Yet OPMII was recommended and the postings fail to
mention that to use it you would require either IR or a lead. As most
computers do not have IR or come with free Nokia leads this can incur a cost
upwards of £30 and a delay until they can buy the hardware, not to mention
the hassle of downloading and installing software that you also need to pay
for to get the full functionality.

Many problems posted can also be solved with the completely free Nokia PC
Suite. Now ok, OPMII is a rival piece of software, but I don't see such
spammy adverts for LogoManager (another rival piece of software) - which, as
far as features are concerned, is a very similar piece of software.

If somebody said they wanted to edit their autoexec.bat file in Windows,
would you recommend they go out and buy Office XP Pro for £400 just because
it can edit text files plus a lot more. Of course not! If you have any sense
you'd tell them about Notepad. If somebody wanted an answering service who
is using BT, would you recommend they go out and buy a
Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine for £300? Of course not!
What's wrong with the free BT answer service? I feel that in a lot of cases
that OPMII is recommended, the advice is extremely crass at best. Giving
such advice in such cases just makes you look incompetent and highly lacking
in knowledge of Nokia phones. When someone posted saying they didn't know
how to delete a user ring tone and OPMII was recommended, that simply
suggests that you guys don't know about the "delete" option in the gallery
menu. Advertising it at every opportunity, in such a nonsensical situation,
simply comes across in the same manner that door to door salesmen do. You
guys wouldn't be going that much further by recommending OPMII every time
somebody posted to alt.comp.periphs saying they wanted to test their IR or
USB port with something.

Now, let me ask you all this: Would you want to buy a product from a door to
door salesman who's been to your door many times already, who gives out
obviously crass advice and who appears incompetent and severely lacking in
knowledge in the area that their product targets? I know I certainly
wouldn't! And that's exactly who you're coming across to people in this
newsgroup (IMHO).

Don't get me wrong, OPMII isn't a bad piece of software and does have its
place. Just like MS Office Pro is a great piece of software if you need its
features over and above what Notepad can do, and just like a
Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine is a great piece of kit if you
need to send faxes and emails without a computer. But come on you guys, why
not try recommending it to people who DO really need it (i.e. not the people
who don't know how to delete user graphics and ring tones from the gallery
using the menus). That way your advice will come across as good and you
would come across as knowing about the basics of nokia phones (such as the
previously mentioned delete function in the gallery) and people will trust
you, and hence consider buying your software as you come across as
knowledgeable in the area of Nokia phones.

Take it or leave it...

Adam

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a_dude
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Re: Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising
Posted: 10-19-2003, 02:01 AM
pedantic aren't we?

so a bunch of russians are peddling their wares... so what

its a 'Forum' get it ?

don't police it

cheers

btw flame em, praise em do whatever to em, the truth comes out....
thats what a forum is all about

"Adam Greatrix" <extorian@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm not meaning to cause an argument here, but is anyone else finding the
> advertisements for OPMII at EVERY opportunity verging on spam?
>
> I have no problem at all with somebody recommending something to me to

solve
> a problem, but not when there are quicker, cheaper, and perfectly good
> alternative ways of solving the same problems - it's simply bad advice.
>
> Over the past few of weeks I've seen people asking about several problems
> (e.g. deleting ring tones and pictures) which can be solved by simply

using
> the built in phone menus. Yet OPMII was recommended and the postings fail

to
> mention that to use it you would require either IR or a lead. As most
> computers do not have IR or come with free Nokia leads this can incur a

cost
> upwards of £30 and a delay until they can buy the hardware, not to mention
> the hassle of downloading and installing software that you also need to

pay
> for to get the full functionality.
>
> Many problems posted can also be solved with the completely free Nokia PC
> Suite. Now ok, OPMII is a rival piece of software, but I don't see such
> spammy adverts for LogoManager (another rival piece of software) - which,

as
> far as features are concerned, is a very similar piece of software.
>
> If somebody said they wanted to edit their autoexec.bat file in Windows,
> would you recommend they go out and buy Office XP Pro for £400 just

because
> it can edit text files plus a lot more. Of course not! If you have any

sense
> you'd tell them about Notepad. If somebody wanted an answering service who
> is using BT, would you recommend they go out and buy a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine for £300? Of course not!
> What's wrong with the free BT answer service? I feel that in a lot of

cases
> that OPMII is recommended, the advice is extremely crass at best. Giving
> such advice in such cases just makes you look incompetent and highly

lacking
> in knowledge of Nokia phones. When someone posted saying they didn't know
> how to delete a user ring tone and OPMII was recommended, that simply
> suggests that you guys don't know about the "delete" option in the gallery
> menu. Advertising it at every opportunity, in such a nonsensical

situation,
> simply comes across in the same manner that door to door salesmen do. You
> guys wouldn't be going that much further by recommending OPMII every time
> somebody posted to alt.comp.periphs saying they wanted to test their IR or
> USB port with something.
>
> Now, let me ask you all this: Would you want to buy a product from a door

to
> door salesman who's been to your door many times already, who gives out
> obviously crass advice and who appears incompetent and severely lacking in
> knowledge in the area that their product targets? I know I certainly
> wouldn't! And that's exactly who you're coming across to people in this
> newsgroup (IMHO).
>
> Don't get me wrong, OPMII isn't a bad piece of software and does have its
> place. Just like MS Office Pro is a great piece of software if you need

its
> features over and above what Notepad can do, and just like a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine is a great piece of kit if

you
> need to send faxes and emails without a computer. But come on you guys,

why
> not try recommending it to people who DO really need it (i.e. not the

people
> who don't know how to delete user graphics and ring tones from the gallery
> using the menus). That way your advice will come across as good and you
> would come across as knowing about the basics of nokia phones (such as the
> previously mentioned delete function in the gallery) and people will trust
> you, and hence consider buying your software as you come across as
> knowledgeable in the area of Nokia phones.
>
> Take it or leave it...
>
> Adam
>
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>



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The Amazed
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Re: Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising
Posted: 10-19-2003, 10:26 AM
Just because he gives advice , the asking party doesnt have to take it, and
you certainly do not have to read it.

"Adam Greatrix" <extorian@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmskj9030gn@enews4.newsguy.com...
> I'm not meaning to cause an argument here, but is anyone else finding the
> advertisements for OPMII at EVERY opportunity verging on spam?
>
> I have no problem at all with somebody recommending something to me to

solve
> a problem, but not when there are quicker, cheaper, and perfectly good
> alternative ways of solving the same problems - it's simply bad advice.
>
> Over the past few of weeks I've seen people asking about several problems
> (e.g. deleting ring tones and pictures) which can be solved by simply

using
> the built in phone menus. Yet OPMII was recommended and the postings fail

to
> mention that to use it you would require either IR or a lead. As most
> computers do not have IR or come with free Nokia leads this can incur a

cost
> upwards of £30 and a delay until they can buy the hardware, not to mention
> the hassle of downloading and installing software that you also need to

pay
> for to get the full functionality.
>
> Many problems posted can also be solved with the completely free Nokia PC
> Suite. Now ok, OPMII is a rival piece of software, but I don't see such
> spammy adverts for LogoManager (another rival piece of software) - which,

as
> far as features are concerned, is a very similar piece of software.
>
> If somebody said they wanted to edit their autoexec.bat file in Windows,
> would you recommend they go out and buy Office XP Pro for £400 just

because
> it can edit text files plus a lot more. Of course not! If you have any

sense
> you'd tell them about Notepad. If somebody wanted an answering service who
> is using BT, would you recommend they go out and buy a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine for £300? Of course not!
> What's wrong with the free BT answer service? I feel that in a lot of

cases
> that OPMII is recommended, the advice is extremely crass at best. Giving
> such advice in such cases just makes you look incompetent and highly

lacking
> in knowledge of Nokia phones. When someone posted saying they didn't know
> how to delete a user ring tone and OPMII was recommended, that simply
> suggests that you guys don't know about the "delete" option in the gallery
> menu. Advertising it at every opportunity, in such a nonsensical

situation,
> simply comes across in the same manner that door to door salesmen do. You
> guys wouldn't be going that much further by recommending OPMII every time
> somebody posted to alt.comp.periphs saying they wanted to test their IR or
> USB port with something.
>
> Now, let me ask you all this: Would you want to buy a product from a door

to
> door salesman who's been to your door many times already, who gives out
> obviously crass advice and who appears incompetent and severely lacking in
> knowledge in the area that their product targets? I know I certainly
> wouldn't! And that's exactly who you're coming across to people in this
> newsgroup (IMHO).
>
> Don't get me wrong, OPMII isn't a bad piece of software and does have its
> place. Just like MS Office Pro is a great piece of software if you need

its
> features over and above what Notepad can do, and just like a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine is a great piece of kit if

you
> need to send faxes and emails without a computer. But come on you guys,

why
> not try recommending it to people who DO really need it (i.e. not the

people
> who don't know how to delete user graphics and ring tones from the gallery
> using the menus). That way your advice will come across as good and you
> would come across as knowing about the basics of nokia phones (such as the
> previously mentioned delete function in the gallery) and people will trust
> you, and hence consider buying your software as you come across as
> knowledgeable in the area of Nokia phones.
>
> Take it or leave it...
>
> Adam
>
> --
>
>



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Adam Greatrix
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Re: Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising
Posted: 10-19-2003, 10:58 AM
"The Amazed" <amazed@you.com> wrote in message
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> Just because he gives advice , the asking party doesnt have to take it,

and
> you certainly do not have to read it.


Yeah, but my point is, if you want to sell some software, the best way to
sell it is not to force it in peoples faces, and more importantly not to
offer it in situations that make you look like you haven't a clue what
you're talking about. Doing so will just result in people being put off the
product, and a wasted newsgroup reply.

And I do have to read it... if somebody asks a question in here it's a good
idea to see if anyone else has replied to it first and solved their
problem - you have to read the content of a post before you know what's in
it.

Adam


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Re: Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising
Posted: 10-19-2003, 03:49 PM
Just another thread that wants to start a war IMHO.
I don't mind the odd bit of advertising as the product needs funding if it
is to survive and this is a Nokia related group. If you moderate that, I
for one may miss the latest updates as I don't realise they are out. When
it is excessive marketting like 20 messages I may see your point or if it
was Viagra which it isn't. I'd rather one post here than constant postings
to my mail box.
You say there is the Nokia product. There is, but it is crap. I want to
hear about the new products from Oxy and LM even if you don't and if you
don't the solution is simple...
In Outlook go to messages/block sender. Then that way people that want to
be notified are and those that don't aren't.
Now your only arguement for continuing would be why should he post them
here?
That would then be pointless and a waste of time considering they wouldn't
affect you.

These postings get very boring and clogg the newsgroup up with "why should
so and so..." messages instead of just deleting the message. In that way
you contradict your own arguement because your post thread is not Nokia
related, whereas Oxygens is.

Mr Mole.


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Re: Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising
Posted: 10-19-2003, 04:33 PM
I see what you are saying, and I understand completely. I hate it when
people all tell me I need to use a specific program to do something too.
However I just chalk it up to someone not knowing any other way to do it.
That is just the same as asking "What is the best film to use in order to
take pictures at my son's graduation?" The answer could be simply "Kodak
Max 800". Well that would be true, but there are a lot of other brands out
there that will do the same thing.

Just one persons advise, does not really constitute spam though. Just they
are very hyper about the program and want to take every oportunity to tell
everyone about it.



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"Adam Greatrix" <extorian@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmskj9030gn@enews4.newsguy.com...
> I'm not meaning to cause an argument here, but is anyone else finding the
> advertisements for OPMII at EVERY opportunity verging on spam?
>
> I have no problem at all with somebody recommending something to me to

solve
> a problem, but not when there are quicker, cheaper, and perfectly good
> alternative ways of solving the same problems - it's simply bad advice.
>
> Over the past few of weeks I've seen people asking about several problems
> (e.g. deleting ring tones and pictures) which can be solved by simply

using
> the built in phone menus. Yet OPMII was recommended and the postings fail

to
> mention that to use it you would require either IR or a lead. As most
> computers do not have IR or come with free Nokia leads this can incur a

cost
> upwards of £30 and a delay until they can buy the hardware, not to mention
> the hassle of downloading and installing software that you also need to

pay
> for to get the full functionality.
>
> Many problems posted can also be solved with the completely free Nokia PC
> Suite. Now ok, OPMII is a rival piece of software, but I don't see such
> spammy adverts for LogoManager (another rival piece of software) - which,

as
> far as features are concerned, is a very similar piece of software.
>
> If somebody said they wanted to edit their autoexec.bat file in Windows,
> would you recommend they go out and buy Office XP Pro for £400 just

because
> it can edit text files plus a lot more. Of course not! If you have any

sense
> you'd tell them about Notepad. If somebody wanted an answering service who
> is using BT, would you recommend they go out and buy a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine for £300? Of course not!
> What's wrong with the free BT answer service? I feel that in a lot of

cases
> that OPMII is recommended, the advice is extremely crass at best. Giving
> such advice in such cases just makes you look incompetent and highly

lacking
> in knowledge of Nokia phones. When someone posted saying they didn't know
> how to delete a user ring tone and OPMII was recommended, that simply
> suggests that you guys don't know about the "delete" option in the gallery
> menu. Advertising it at every opportunity, in such a nonsensical

situation,
> simply comes across in the same manner that door to door salesmen do. You
> guys wouldn't be going that much further by recommending OPMII every time
> somebody posted to alt.comp.periphs saying they wanted to test their IR or
> USB port with something.
>
> Now, let me ask you all this: Would you want to buy a product from a door

to
> door salesman who's been to your door many times already, who gives out
> obviously crass advice and who appears incompetent and severely lacking in
> knowledge in the area that their product targets? I know I certainly
> wouldn't! And that's exactly who you're coming across to people in this
> newsgroup (IMHO).
>
> Don't get me wrong, OPMII isn't a bad piece of software and does have its
> place. Just like MS Office Pro is a great piece of software if you need

its
> features over and above what Notepad can do, and just like a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine is a great piece of kit if

you
> need to send faxes and emails without a computer. But come on you guys,

why
> not try recommending it to people who DO really need it (i.e. not the

people
> who don't know how to delete user graphics and ring tones from the gallery
> using the menus). That way your advice will come across as good and you
> would come across as knowing about the basics of nokia phones (such as the
> previously mentioned delete function in the gallery) and people will trust
> you, and hence consider buying your software as you come across as
> knowledgeable in the area of Nokia phones.
>
> Take it or leave it...
>
> Adam
>
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>
>



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Adam Greatrix
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Re: Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising
Posted: 10-19-2003, 04:50 PM
"The Mole" <unknown@unknown.com> wrote in message
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> Just another thread that wants to start a war IMHO.


Not the point at all. My point is that I've seen OPMII recommended for
things such as deleting custom ringtones and graphics. What's wrong with the
phone menu's for this? Advertising the product for situations like this
makes it appear that the don't know about the "delete" function in the
menus. If they don't know about that then how good can their software be?
That's my point. I know their software is good, and I know they have to
advertise it, and I know that they obviously DO know how Nokia phones work.
I'm just saying that it does NOT come across like that when they recommend
their software in such situations.

> I want to
> hear about the new products from Oxy and LM even if you don't and if you
> don't the solution is simple...


Again, you misunderstand me - I also want to hear about such new products
(or features thereof), but not several times a day, nor advertisments for
features that the phone can also do itself without any extra software or
hardware (ir port or lead).

> Now your only arguement for continuing would be why should he post them
> here?


That was never an argument. A Nokia newgroup is an obvious place to
advertise nokia software.

> That would then be pointless and a waste of time considering they wouldn't
> affect you.


Assuming I'd want to block the senders of such messages - which I don't. I
don't want to reply to peoples problems that have already been solved by
other people satisfactorily. The posters of such advertisments don't just
post adverts, they post other stuff too that I want to read.

> These postings get very boring and clogg the newsgroup up with "why should
> so and so..." messages instead of just deleting the message. In that way
> you contradict your own arguement because your post thread is not Nokia
> related, whereas Oxygens is.


Seems you didn't read (or maybe take in) several parts of my original post
then. My post contains many references to advice (and its relevance, merits,
or lack of) given out to people using Nokia phones. Is this newsgroup not a
suitable place for discussing advice about Nokia phones?

Adam


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Re: Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising
Posted: 10-19-2003, 08:58 PM
spam spam spam spam spam
more spam and what about people advertising websites in their signature

www.nospam.com

"Adam Greatrix" <extorian@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmskj9030gn@enews4.newsguy.com...
> I'm not meaning to cause an argument here, but is anyone else finding the
> advertisements for OPMII at EVERY opportunity verging on spam?
>
> I have no problem at all with somebody recommending something to me to

solve
> a problem, but not when there are quicker, cheaper, and perfectly good
> alternative ways of solving the same problems - it's simply bad advice.
>
> Over the past few of weeks I've seen people asking about several problems
> (e.g. deleting ring tones and pictures) which can be solved by simply

using
> the built in phone menus. Yet OPMII was recommended and the postings fail

to
> mention that to use it you would require either IR or a lead. As most
> computers do not have IR or come with free Nokia leads this can incur a

cost
> upwards of £30 and a delay until they can buy the hardware, not to mention
> the hassle of downloading and installing software that you also need to

pay
> for to get the full functionality.
>
> Many problems posted can also be solved with the completely free Nokia PC
> Suite. Now ok, OPMII is a rival piece of software, but I don't see such
> spammy adverts for LogoManager (another rival piece of software) - which,

as
> far as features are concerned, is a very similar piece of software.
>
> If somebody said they wanted to edit their autoexec.bat file in Windows,
> would you recommend they go out and buy Office XP Pro for £400 just

because
> it can edit text files plus a lot more. Of course not! If you have any

sense
> you'd tell them about Notepad. If somebody wanted an answering service who
> is using BT, would you recommend they go out and buy a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine for £300? Of course not!
> What's wrong with the free BT answer service? I feel that in a lot of

cases
> that OPMII is recommended, the advice is extremely crass at best. Giving
> such advice in such cases just makes you look incompetent and highly

lacking
> in knowledge of Nokia phones. When someone posted saying they didn't know
> how to delete a user ring tone and OPMII was recommended, that simply
> suggests that you guys don't know about the "delete" option in the gallery
> menu. Advertising it at every opportunity, in such a nonsensical

situation,
> simply comes across in the same manner that door to door salesmen do. You
> guys wouldn't be going that much further by recommending OPMII every time
> somebody posted to alt.comp.periphs saying they wanted to test their IR or
> USB port with something.
>
> Now, let me ask you all this: Would you want to buy a product from a door

to
> door salesman who's been to your door many times already, who gives out
> obviously crass advice and who appears incompetent and severely lacking in
> knowledge in the area that their product targets? I know I certainly
> wouldn't! And that's exactly who you're coming across to people in this
> newsgroup (IMHO).
>
> Don't get me wrong, OPMII isn't a bad piece of software and does have its
> place. Just like MS Office Pro is a great piece of software if you need

its
> features over and above what Notepad can do, and just like a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine is a great piece of kit if

you
> need to send faxes and emails without a computer. But come on you guys,

why
> not try recommending it to people who DO really need it (i.e. not the

people
> who don't know how to delete user graphics and ring tones from the gallery
> using the menus). That way your advice will come across as good and you
> would come across as knowing about the basics of nokia phones (such as the
> previously mentioned delete function in the gallery) and people will trust
> you, and hence consider buying your software as you come across as
> knowledgeable in the area of Nokia phones.
>
> Take it or leave it...
>
> Adam
>
> --
>
>



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Re: Oxygen Phone Manager II advertising
Posted: 10-20-2003, 09:33 AM

"Adam Greatrix" <extorian@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bmskj9030gn@enews4.newsguy.com...
> I'm not meaning to cause an argument here, but is anyone else

finding the
> advertisements for OPMII at EVERY opportunity verging on spam?


Yes, and no. Yes, as there <does> seem to be a lot sometimes.
No, as it is relavent to the subject in hand.

> I have no problem at all with somebody recommending something to me

to solve
> a problem, but not when there are quicker, cheaper, and perfectly

good
> alternative ways of solving the same problems - it's simply bad

advice.

Humm, I guess its up to us, the NG population to advise accordingly.
Oxygen are there to
promote OPM2 after all.

> Over the past few of weeks I've seen people asking about several

problems
> (e.g. deleting ring tones and pictures) which can be solved by

simply using
> the built in phone menus. Yet OPMII was recommended and the postings

fail to
> mention that to use it you would require either IR or a lead. As

most
> computers do not have IR or come with free Nokia leads this can

incur a cost
> upwards of £30 and a delay until they can buy the hardware, not to

mention
> the hassle of downloading and installing software that you also need

to pay
> for to get the full functionality.


True, true.

> Many problems posted can also be solved with the completely free

Nokia PC
> Suite. Now ok, OPMII is a rival piece of software, but I don't see

such
> spammy adverts for LogoManager (another rival piece of software) -

which, as
> far as features are concerned, is a very similar piece of software.


No, can't agree there. I have both. Logomanager is GREAT for logos,
ringtones & sending SMSs. It doesn't manage the whole of the phone
like OPM2 does. eg, FM radio stations on me 8310

> If somebody said they wanted to edit their autoexec.bat file in

Windows,
> would you recommend they go out and buy Office XP Pro for £400 just

because
> it can edit text files plus a lot more. Of course not! If you have

any sense
> you'd tell them about Notepad. If somebody wanted an answering

service who
> is using BT, would you recommend they go out and buy a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine for £300? Of course

not!
> What's wrong with the free BT answer service? I feel that in a lot

of cases
> that OPMII is recommended, the advice is extremely crass at best.

Giving
> such advice in such cases just makes you look incompetent and highly

lacking
> in knowledge of Nokia phones. When someone posted saying they didn't

know
> how to delete a user ring tone and OPMII was recommended, that

simply
> suggests that you guys don't know about the "delete" option in the

gallery
> menu. Advertising it at every opportunity, in such a nonsensical

situation,

Can be put to good use if you want to make a point to Oxygen, I'm sure
the regulars remember my little.....disagreement a while back that
resulted in the OPM2 license changes.

> simply comes across in the same manner that door to door salesmen

do. You
> guys wouldn't be going that much further by recommending OPMII every

time
> somebody posted to alt.comp.periphs saying they wanted to test their

IR or
> USB port with something.
>
> Now, let me ask you all this: Would you want to buy a product from a

door to
> door salesman who's been to your door many times already, who gives

out
> obviously crass advice and who appears incompetent and severely

lacking in
> knowledge in the area that their product targets? I know I certainly
> wouldn't! And that's exactly who you're coming across to people in

this
> newsgroup (IMHO).


Hummm, trouble is, unless we give the simple answers to people who
don't know, Oxygen is going to be the default answer.

> Don't get me wrong, OPMII isn't a bad piece of software and does

have its
> place. Just like MS Office Pro is a great piece of software if you

need its
> features over and above what Notepad can do, and just like a
> Telephone/Fax/Email/Digital Answering Machine is a great piece of

kit if you
> need to send faxes and emails without a computer. But come on you

guys, why
> not try recommending it to people who DO really need it (i.e. not

the people
> who don't know how to delete user graphics and ring tones from the

gallery
> using the menus).


Oxygen want to sell software, (lots!) why would they do as you
suggest?

That way your advice will come across as good and you
> would come across as knowing about the basics of nokia phones (such

as the
> previously mentioned delete function in the gallery) and people will

trust
> you, and hence consider buying your software as you come across as
> knowledgeable in the area of Nokia phones.


I never trust anything on the internet unless I can get it verified
elsewhere.


> Take it or leave it...


Thats the best advice. People asking questions can choose to take the
answer given, find out more details, & proceed accordingly. People who
trust everything they are told without checking the answers.... well
nuff said.

> Adam
>
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Thus spake the top-poster "scolley" <scolley@scolley224.fsnet.co.uk> in
message news:bmuqgq$3qd$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> spam spam spam spam spam
> more spam


Err..... And your point is?

> and what about people advertising websites in their signature


What about it? If you have a valid point, make it. But, you may want to
research the usage of sigs prior to your next blurting.

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