Movie player for mobiles

Posted: 09-15-2003, 01:37 PM
Hi, I'd like to implement a movie player targetted to
series 60 nokia phones. The problem is that I'm not
sure where to start. I have little idea about symbian
os programming, have been reading some docs but
find it a little hard to grasp.
My questions involving this are:
1) Is there any existing project (open source) which
is already doing this? So instead of reinventing the
wheel one can collaborate?
2) Which is the best resource (book or web) to start
with symbian gui programming?
3) I don't have many experience with multimedia...
so given that the target of this application is a mobile,
what do you think is the best format to work with?
(in terms of compresion and easyness to program)
AVI, mpeg?

Thanks in advance for your help.
ac.-



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Posted: 09-16-2003, 11:01 AM
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| Hi, I'd like to implement a movie player targetted to
| series 60 nokia phones. The problem is that I'm not
| sure where to start. I have little idea about symbian
| os programming, have been reading some docs but
| find it a little hard to grasp.
| My questions involving this are:
| 1) Is there any existing project (open source) which
| is already doing this? So instead of reinventing the
| wheel one can collaborate?
| 2) Which is the best resource (book or web) to start
| with symbian gui programming?
| 3) I don't have many experience with multimedia...
| so given that the target of this application is a mobile,
| what do you think is the best format to work with?
| (in terms of compresion and easyness to program)
| AVI, mpeg?
|
| Thanks in advance for your help.
| ac.-
|
I dunno much bout this, but the 9210 (series 80) has a movie player and
also supports realplayer..


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Posted: 09-16-2003, 12:55 PM
> | Hi, I'd like to implement a movie player targetted to
> | series 60 nokia phones. The problem is that I'm not
> | sure where to start. I have little idea about symbian
> | os programming, have been reading some docs but
> | find it a little hard to grasp.
> | My questions involving this are:
> | 1) Is there any existing project (open source) which
> | is already doing this? So instead of reinventing the
> | wheel one can collaborate?
> | 2) Which is the best resource (book or web) to start
> | with symbian gui programming?
> | 3) I don't have many experience with multimedia...
> | so given that the target of this application is a mobile,
> | what do you think is the best format to work with?
> | (in terms of compresion and easyness to program)
> | AVI, mpeg?
> |
> | Thanks in advance for your help.
> | ac.-
> |
> I dunno much bout this, but the 9210 (series 80) has a movie player and
> also supports realplayer..


Thanks, but I'd like to know how to write a movie player from scratch.
I've been looking for some source code example, but found absolutely
nothing :-(

Regards.
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Re: Movie player for mobiles
Posted: 09-16-2003, 02:08 PM
On Tue, 16 Sep 2003 13:55:29 +0200, "ac" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

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>> I dunno much bout this, but the 9210 (series 80) has a movie player and
>> also supports realplayer..

>
>Thanks, but I'd like to know how to write a movie player from scratch.
>I've been looking for some source code example, but found absolutely
>nothing :-(


My guess would be that a cell phone does not have the computing power
to create a decent software movie player. (Unless they've got some
programmable dsp chips that I'm not aware of.)

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Posted: 09-16-2003, 02:43 PM
> >Thanks, but I'd like to know how to write a movie player from scratch.
> >I've been looking for some source code example, but found absolutely
> >nothing :-(

>
> My guess would be that a cell phone does not have the computing power
> to create a decent software movie player. (Unless they've got some
> programmable dsp chips that I'm not aware of.)


But they already exist... look at RealPlayer for instance.

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Posted: 09-16-2003, 03:24 PM

"tuned by RÄZO" <millajovovich@softhome.net> wrote in message
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> "ac" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:bk4bst$p9shg$1@ID-84876.news.uni-berlin.de...
> | Hi, I'd like to implement a movie player targetted to
> | series 60 nokia phones. The problem is that I'm not
> | sure where to start. I have little idea about symbian
> | os programming, have been reading some docs but
> | find it a little hard to grasp.


You should find all the answers to the questions you raised, plus lots of
great people willing to help you out on discussion.epoc.c++ /
discussion.epoc.java - both of these newsgroups are hosted on
publicnews.symbiandevnet.com These newsgroups are full of dedicated Symbian
developers, whereas this group tends to be more for phone users.

Also check out www.newlc.com, which is a great Symbian programming resource,
and www.forum.nokia.com for Nokia-specific help. Don't expect to pick up
Symbian coding in a few hours - it's quite a deep topic and can be
frustrating at first due to it's design - but there is a large community of
developers out there who are willing to offer advice to beginners and some
good books exist so with some hard work and perseverence, you'll be building
Symbian apps before too long.

My advice would be to start off with something considerably simpler than a
video player - an application which displays still images would seem like a
good starting point. Don't try to accomplish too much while you're still
learning the basics of Symbian or you might get disheartened.

Best of luck!

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Posted: 09-16-2003, 04:05 PM
Hi,

> You should find all the answers to the questions you raised, plus lots of
> great people willing to help you out on discussion.epoc.c++ /
> discussion.epoc.java - both of these newsgroups are hosted on
> publicnews.symbiandevnet.com These newsgroups are full of dedicated

Symbian
> developers, whereas this group tends to be more for phone users.


Thanks for those links, specially the newsgroups. I was looking for
symbian groups in usenet with no luck...

> Also check out www.newlc.com, which is a great Symbian programming

resource,
> and www.forum.nokia.com for Nokia-specific help. Don't expect to pick up
> Symbian coding in a few hours - it's quite a deep topic and can be
> frustrating at first due to it's design - but there is a large community

of
> developers out there who are willing to offer advice to beginners and some
> good books exist so with some hard work and perseverence, you'll be

building
> Symbian apps before too long.


Yes, I know. I've been reading docs for some days but it's quite difficult
to
grasp... I find it somewhat overdesigned... I mean, why do I need to have
4 different objects to manage a simple control? Too many objects...
What books do you recommend me? Because I've seen not very good
comments in amazon for the symbian books, except one which is no
longer printed...

> My advice would be to start off with something considerably simpler than a
> video player - an application which displays still images would seem like

a
> good starting point. Don't try to accomplish too much while you're still
> learning the basics of Symbian or you might get disheartened.


OK, thanks a lot for your advice.
ac.-



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Posted: 09-17-2003, 08:14 AM
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| > >Thanks, but I'd like to know how to write a movie player from scratch.
| > >I've been looking for some source code example, but found absolutely
| > >nothing :-(
| >
| > My guess would be that a cell phone does not have the computing power
| > to create a decent software movie player. (Unless they've got some
| > programmable dsp chips that I'm not aware of.)
|
| But they already exist... look at RealPlayer for instance.
|
| Regards,
| David.-
|

yupz...but i think the 9210 uses a AMD 486 chip?


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Posted: 09-17-2003, 08:16 AM
well....if u need a betatester in the future for ur product, me and my 9210
are available :-)

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| Hi,
|
| > You should find all the answers to the questions you raised, plus lots
of
| > great people willing to help you out on discussion.epoc.c++ /
| > discussion.epoc.java - both of these newsgroups are hosted on
| > publicnews.symbiandevnet.com These newsgroups are full of dedicated
| Symbian
| > developers, whereas this group tends to be more for phone users.
|
| Thanks for those links, specially the newsgroups. I was looking for
| symbian groups in usenet with no luck...
|
| > Also check out www.newlc.com, which is a great Symbian programming
| resource,
| > and www.forum.nokia.com for Nokia-specific help. Don't expect to pick
up
| > Symbian coding in a few hours - it's quite a deep topic and can be
| > frustrating at first due to it's design - but there is a large community
| of
| > developers out there who are willing to offer advice to beginners and
some
| > good books exist so with some hard work and perseverence, you'll be
| building
| > Symbian apps before too long.
|
| Yes, I know. I've been reading docs for some days but it's quite difficult
| to
| grasp... I find it somewhat overdesigned... I mean, why do I need to have
| 4 different objects to manage a simple control? Too many objects...
| What books do you recommend me? Because I've seen not very good
| comments in amazon for the symbian books, except one which is no
| longer printed...
|
| > My advice would be to start off with something considerably simpler than
a
| > video player - an application which displays still images would seem
like
| a
| > good starting point. Don't try to accomplish too much while you're
still
| > learning the basics of Symbian or you might get disheartened.
|
| OK, thanks a lot for your advice.
| ac.-
|
|
|


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Posted: 09-17-2003, 02:51 PM
"ac" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Yes, I know. I've been reading docs for some days but it's quite difficult
> to
> grasp... I find it somewhat overdesigned... I mean, why do I need to have
> 4 different objects to manage a simple control? Too many objects...


I agree... overdesigned is exactly the word. However, a lot of thought has
gone into it and it's possible to create some great stuff for Symbian
devices so it's worth it in the end.

> What books do you recommend me? Because I've seen not very good
> comments in amazon for the symbian books, except one which is no
> longer printed...


'Professional Symbian Programming: Mobile Solutions on the EPOC Platform'
(Tasker, et al) seems to be the one most people recommend, although it's a
little out of date now. You would be better asking on the symbian
newsgroups because I haven't read any Symbian books :-( I've learned
everything I know from the newsgroups, the SDK docs (which are quite poor)
and being fortunate enough to have a full-time job which meant I got to
write Symbian stuff for my company. I'm not an expert and I should probably
read a good book myself to cover the basics more completely. If you find a
good one, post about it.

> OK, thanks a lot for your advice.


No problem. Developers should always help eachother out :-)

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