dialup my ISP on mac via v557

I've got it working now, and I connect at a whopping 9.6kbps.

Is it possible to use the Edge network? I have "/FREE WIRELESS
INTERNET" listed on my account features... is this considered a data
plan?

I'm new to all this. My roommate who has Verizon and no data plan is
somehow able to dial up to his network via bluetooth and get roughly
20k/sec download speed using his airtime minutes.


On 2006-03-05 21:31:29 -0500, dkocolin
<dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com> said:

> I'm using a V557 paired via Bluetooth to my Mac.
> On my roommates PC we were successfully able to dial my school's ISP
> access number and connect via bluetooth and use the connection.
>
> However, on my Mac I can't get it to work. The problem seems to lie
> within the modem script. I've tried various ones online but no luck.
> Has anyone gotten this phone to work as a DUN gateway on OS X 10.4?

In article
<2006030523021975249%dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromt heirmailcom>,
dkocolin <dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com> wrote:

> I've got it working now, and I connect at a whopping 9.6kbps.
>
> Is it possible to use the Edge network? I have "/FREE WIRELESS
> INTERNET" listed on my account features... is this considered a data
> plan?
>
> I'm new to all this. My roommate who has Verizon and no data plan is
> somehow able to dial up to his network via bluetooth and get roughly
> 20k/sec download speed using his airtime minutes.

From what I know (I have been playing with the data features myself for
the past couple of weeks), is that CSD (Circuit Switched Data), is the
*only* way you can actually dial an outside number to access your ISP on
it's dialups. You must already have the CSD feature on your account
since you are able to connect at 9.6kb. If you didn't have that feature
you couldn't connect at all.

Using CSD, a single time slot can only pass 9600bps. Some companies
bond two or more time slots together for higher speeds, Cingular
doesn't. 9600bps is the highest CSD speed you can get from Cingular.
CSD usage is billed by minutes used, not data transmitted.

Using the Data Plans (EDGE) you connect to the internet using Cingular's
internet connection, not by dialing up your ISP. Unless you purchase a
Data Plan of some sort (there are several), Cingular charges for data at
10 cents/KB, there is no per minute charge, but the KB price adds up
very quickly.

I suggest you goggle for this news group for the past two or three
weeks. There have been several threads covering this very subject.

--
-Ernie-

"There are only two kinds of computer users -- those who have
suffered a catastrophic hard drive failure, and those who will."

Have you done your backup today?

I'll give a look, thanks!

Somehow my roommate doesn't have a data plan, but calls a number on his
Verizon wireless phone (#777 I think) and logs in and it charges
airtime minutes, not data, and he gets the max speed he can which is
around 18k/sec.

On 2006-03-06 10:16:15 -0500, Ernie Klein <ecklein@pacbell.net> said:

> In article <2006030523021975249%dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromt heirmailcom>,
> dkocolin <dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've got it working now, and I connect at a whopping 9.6kbps.
>>
>> Is it possible to use the Edge network? I have "/FREE WIRELESS
>> INTERNET" listed on my account features... is this considered a data
>> plan?
>>
>> I'm new to all this. My roommate who has Verizon and no data plan is
>> somehow able to dial up to his network via bluetooth and get roughly
>> 20k/sec download speed using his airtime minutes.
>
> From what I know (I have been playing with the data features myself for
> the past couple of weeks), is that CSD (Circuit Switched Data), is the
> *only* way you can actually dial an outside number to access your ISP
> on it's dialups. You must already have the CSD feature on your account
> since you are able to connect at 9.6kb. If you didn't have that
> feature you couldn't connect at all.
>
> Using CSD, a single time slot can only pass 9600bps. Some companies
> bond two or more time slots together for higher speeds, Cingular
> doesn't. 9600bps is the highest CSD speed you can get from Cingular.
> CSD usage is billed by minutes used, not data transmitted.
>
> Using the Data Plans (EDGE) you connect to the internet using
> Cingular's internet connection, not by dialing up your ISP. Unless you
> purchase a Data Plan of some sort (there are several), Cingular charges
> for data at 10 cents/KB, there is no per minute charge, but the KB
> price adds up very quickly.
>
> I suggest you goggle for this news group for the past two or three
> weeks. There have been several threads covering this very subject.

The other thing I'm trying to determine is what these two items on my
features list offer me:

One is "/FREE WIRELESS INTERNET" (slash included)
The other is "WIRELESS INTERNET XPRESS PAY PER USE"

They're both listed as "$0.00"/month, they've been on my plan for
several years now and I never paid them much attention.

What do these entitle me to, access wise charge wise?

On 2006-03-05 21:31:29 -0500, dkocolin
<dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com> said:

> I'm using a V557 paired via Bluetooth to my Mac.
> On my roommates PC we were successfully able to dial my school's ISP
> access number and connect via bluetooth and use the connection.
>
> However, on my Mac I can't get it to work. The problem seems to lie
> within the modem script. I've tried various ones online but no luck.
> Has anyone gotten this phone to work as a DUN gateway on OS X 10.4?

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In <ecklein-059EAB.07161506032006@news.west.earthlink.net> on Mon, 06 Mar 2006
15:16:15 GMT, Ernie Klein <ecklein@pacbell.net> wrote:

>In article
><2006030523021975249%dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfrom theirmailcom>,
> dkocolin <dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've got it working now, and I connect at a whopping 9.6kbps.
>>
>> Is it possible to use the Edge network? I have "/FREE WIRELESS
>> INTERNET" listed on my account features... is this considered a data
>> plan?
>>
>> I'm new to all this. My roommate who has Verizon and no data plan is
>> somehow able to dial up to his network via bluetooth and get roughly
>> 20k/sec download speed using his airtime minutes.
>
>From what I know (I have been playing with the data features myself for
>the past couple of weeks), is that CSD (Circuit Switched Data), is the
>*only* way you can actually dial an outside number to access your ISP on
>it's dialups. You must already have the CSD feature on your account
>since you are able to connect at 9.6kb. If you didn't have that feature
>you couldn't connect at all.

Correct.

>Using CSD, a single time slot can only pass 9600bps. Some companies
>bond two or more time slots together for higher speeds, Cingular
>doesn't. 9600bps is the highest CSD speed you can get from Cingular.
>...

CSD is limited to a single time slot of 9600 bps
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circuit_Switched_Data>

HSCSD can use more efficient coding of 14400 bps in a single time slot and/or
multiple time slots (up to a maximum of 4) to increase speed over CSD.
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HSCSD>

Cingular supports only CSD (on request, and not in all areas), not HSCSD.

--
Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

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Verizon uses CDMA technology.
Cingular used TDMA-based GSM technology.
They work and are billed differently.

In <2006030610483216807%dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromt heirmailcom> on Mon, 6
Mar 2006 10:48:32 -0500, dkocolin <dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com>
wrote:

>I'll give a look, thanks!
>
>Somehow my roommate doesn't have a data plan, but calls a number on his
>Verizon wireless phone (#777 I think) and logs in and it charges
>airtime minutes, not data, and he gets the max speed he can which is
>around 18k/sec.
>
>On 2006-03-06 10:16:15 -0500, Ernie Klein <ecklein@pacbell.net> said:
>
>> In article <2006030523021975249%dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromt heirmailcom>,
>> dkocolin <dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I've got it working now, and I connect at a whopping 9.6kbps.
>>>
>>> Is it possible to use the Edge network? I have "/FREE WIRELESS
>>> INTERNET" listed on my account features... is this considered a data
>>> plan?
>>>
>>> I'm new to all this. My roommate who has Verizon and no data plan is
>>> somehow able to dial up to his network via bluetooth and get roughly
>>> 20k/sec download speed using his airtime minutes.
>>
>> From what I know (I have been playing with the data features myself for
>> the past couple of weeks), is that CSD (Circuit Switched Data), is the
>> *only* way you can actually dial an outside number to access your ISP
>> on it's dialups. You must already have the CSD feature on your account
>> since you are able to connect at 9.6kb. If you didn't have that
>> feature you couldn't connect at all.
>>
>> Using CSD, a single time slot can only pass 9600bps. Some companies
>> bond two or more time slots together for higher speeds, Cingular
>> doesn't. 9600bps is the highest CSD speed you can get from Cingular.
>> CSD usage is billed by minutes used, not data transmitted.
>>
>> Using the Data Plans (EDGE) you connect to the internet using
>> Cingular's internet connection, not by dialing up your ISP. Unless you
>> purchase a Data Plan of some sort (there are several), Cingular charges
>> for data at 10 cents/KB, there is no per minute charge, but the KB
>> price adds up very quickly.
>>
>> I suggest you goggle for this news group for the past two or three
>> weeks. There have been several threads covering this very subject.
>

--
Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

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In <2006030610521375249%dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromt heirmailcom> on Mon, 6
Mar 2006 10:52:13 -0500, dkocolin <dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com>
wrote:

>The other thing I'm trying to determine is what these two items on my
>features list offer me:
>
>One is "/FREE WIRELESS INTERNET" (slash included)

That's Cingular-speak for CSD.

>The other is "WIRELESS INTERNET XPRESS PAY PER USE"

That's Cingular-speak for GPRS/EGPRS(EDGE).

>They're both listed as "$0.00"/month, they've been on my plan for
>several years now and I never paid them much attention.
>
>What do these entitle me to, access wise charge wise?
>
>On 2006-03-05 21:31:29 -0500, dkocolin
><dkocolin@gfiltersallspamfromtheirmail.com> said:
>
>> I'm using a V557 paired via Bluetooth to my Mac.
>> On my roommates PC we were successfully able to dial my school's ISP
>> access number and connect via bluetooth and use the connection.
>>
>> However, on my Mac I can't get it to work. The problem seems to lie
>> within the modem script. I've tried various ones online but no luck.
>> Has anyone gotten this phone to work as a DUN gateway on OS X 10.4?
>

--
Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>