Phil, Aaron properly clarified my intent. Motorola is not a carrier;
it's Cingular, TMo, etc. that order the phones bundled or, more
accurately, UNbundled to keep costs low. Most people probably never miss
MPT. I respect you for not wanting to pirate it but you don't need to
spend the $50 retail price to get a legit copy. There are lots of ebay
sellers selling MPT for as little as $14 delivered including the cable.
As long as you get a version that's 2.11 or higher it will update itself
to version 4.04 (or whatever is newest) as you do the installation.


> Aaron wrote:
>> "Phil Nelson" <pCUT_THiS_TEXTdn@soAND_THiS_TEXTnic.net> wrote in
>> message news:4401bc1d$0$95992$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>
>>> BruceR wrote:
>>>
>>>> In the US most carriers (not Motorola) sell the phones stripped
>>>> down to the very basic. They may include a cheap headset but you
>>>> usually get just the phone, battery, manual, and a charger. The
>>>> phones are heavily
>>>
>>> "not Motorola"? I bought a (Cingular) subsidized V180 last fall-
>>> phone, battery, manual, charger is all I remember. Was there a CD
>>> in there I didn't notice?
>>>
>>> Maybe only people rich enough to pay a guy to remove vowels get
>>> more? --
>>> Phil Nelson
>>
>>
>> I think that you misunderstood BruceR... He's saying that Motorola
>> doesn't strip the phone down, but that the carriers here in the
>> States do. In other words, because our phones cost less then Euro
>> phones do, they come with fewer goodies, like MPT.
>
> I see it now, thanks. I suppose wishful thinking might have influenced
> my interpretation- I need MPT but can't afford it and won't pirate it.
>
> I'm (i)syncing OK to my Mac mini, but currently have no solution for
> my Windows XP laptop. I can use the V180 as a modem, but that's all,
> so far.

BruceR wrote:
> Phil, Aaron properly clarified my intent. Motorola is not a carrier;
> it's Cingular, TMo, etc. that order the phones bundled or, more
> accurately, UNbundled to keep costs low. Most people probably never miss
> MPT. I respect you for not wanting to pirate it but you don't need to
> spend the $50 retail price to get a legit copy. There are lots of ebay
> sellers selling MPT for as little as $14 delivered including the cable.
> As long as you get a version that's 2.11 or higher it will update itself
> to version 4.04 (or whatever is newest) as you do the installation.
>

Thanks for the info. I would pay $5 to download from a known legit site.
I might pay $10 for a CD. If that's not enough for the author, I will do
without until owning it is obviously necessary or I have disposable
income.

--
Phil Nelson

Here ya go - $8.98 delivered!
http://cgi.ebay.com/MOTOROLA-mOBILE-PHONE-TOOLS-FULL-Version-Deluxe-V-3-23_W0QQitemZ5872325768QQcategoryZ115045QQrdZ1QQcmd ZViewItem> BruceR wrote:>> Phil, Aaron properly clarified my intent. Motorola is not a carrier;>> it's Cingular, TMo, etc. that order the phones bundled or, more>> accurately, UNbundled to keep costs low. Most people probably never>> miss MPT. I respect you for not wanting to pirate it but you don't>> need to spend the $50 retail price to get a legit copy. There are>> lots of ebay sellers selling MPT for as little as $14 delivered>> including the cable. As long as you get a version that's 2.11 or>> higher it will update itself to version 4.04 (or whatever is newest)>> as you do the installation.>> Thanks for the info. I would pay $5 to download from a known legit> site. I might pay $10 for a CD. If that's not enough for the author,> I will do without until owning it is obviously necessary or I have> disposable income.

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In <4401e19d$0$95999$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> on Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:12:17
-0800, Phil Nelson <pCUT_THiS_TEXTdn@soAND_THiS_TEXTnic.net> wrote:

>Aaron wrote:
>> "Phil Nelson" <pCUT_THiS_TEXTdn@soAND_THiS_TEXTnic.net> wrote in message
>> news:4401bc1d$0$95992$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...

>> I think that you misunderstood BruceR... He's saying that Motorola doesn't
>> strip the phone down, but that the carriers here in the States do. In other
>> words, because our phones cost less then Euro phones do, they come with
>> fewer goodies, like MPT.
>
>I see it now, thanks. I suppose wishful thinking might have influenced
>my interpretation- I need MPT but can't afford it and won't pirate it.

$9 plus $6 shipping
<http://www.andale.com/stores/sf_itemHome.jsp?lid=135823114&cid=1355415&mode=1>
OR
$15 with USB cable plus $7 shipping
<http://www.andale.com/stores/sf_itemHome.jsp?lid=135823060&cid=1355415&mode=1>

Then upgrade online to latest version.

--
Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

You can purchase legal older versions of MPT, usually new old stock
from Ebay. From this you can upgrade for free to the latest version
of MPT thought you would have to do it via update after update via
LiveUpdate. I purchased my boxed copy of MPT at Office Depot in the
blowout section of our local store for $1.88 since it was missing the
cable, which I had already from Ebay for cheap. It was version 2.x
and after updating regularly I have the latest 4.0

Gabe

On Sun, 26 Feb 2006 09:12:17 -0800, Phil Nelson
<pCUT_THiS_TEXTdn@soAND_THiS_TEXTnic.net> wrote:

>Aaron wrote:
>> "Phil Nelson" <pCUT_THiS_TEXTdn@soAND_THiS_TEXTnic.net> wrote in message
>> news:4401bc1d$0$95992$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net...
>>
>>>BruceR wrote:
>>>
>>>>In the US most carriers (not Motorola) sell the phones stripped down to
>>>>the very basic. They may include a cheap headset but you usually get just
>>>>the phone, battery, manual, and a charger. The phones are heavily
>>>
>>>"not Motorola"? I bought a (Cingular) subsidized V180 last fall- phone,
>>>battery, manual, charger is all I remember. Was there a CD in there I
>>>didn't notice?
>>>
>>>Maybe only people rich enough to pay a guy to remove vowels get more?
>>>
>>>--
>>>Phil Nelson
>>
>>
>> I think that you misunderstood BruceR... He's saying that Motorola doesn't
>> strip the phone down, but that the carriers here in the States do. In other
>> words, because our phones cost less then Euro phones do, they come with
>> fewer goodies, like MPT.
>
>I see it now, thanks. I suppose wishful thinking might have influenced
>my interpretation- I need MPT but can't afford it and won't pirate it.
>
>I'm (i)syncing OK to my Mac mini, but currently have no solution for
>my Windows XP laptop. I can use the V180 as a modem, but that's all,
>so far.