V3 Razr: Which band is being used?

Posted: 08-28-2005, 08:59 AM
I've got a V3 Razr -- I'm wondering if there is any way to tell whether
the phone is using the 850MHz or 1900MHz band?

The reason I ask, my parents have 1900MHz only phones, we're finding
that I have reception in places where they don't have any signal at all.

I'd like to tell whether it's just that their phones have worse RF
performance in general, or whether buying 850MHz-capable phones would
solve it.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 09:17 AM
I don't know if there's any way to know other than by temporarily
turning off the 850 capability in your phone.
There's this:

SEEM 0025_0001

**all offsets are HEX**

offset 00 -
bit 0, bit 3: 900/1800 and 1900 (set each of
these bits to 1)
bit 0, bit 1, bit 3: 850/1900 and 900/1800 (set each of these bits
to 1)
bit 0, bit 2, bit 3: 850/1900 and 900 (set each of these bits to
1)
bit 2, bit 3: 850/1900 and 1800 (set each of these bits to 1)


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> I've got a V3 Razr -- I'm wondering if there is any way to tell
> whether the phone is using the 850MHz or 1900MHz band?
>
> The reason I ask, my parents have 1900MHz only phones, we're finding
> that I have reception in places where they don't have any signal at
> all.
>
> I'd like to tell whether it's just that their phones have worse RF
> performance in general, or whether buying 850MHz-capable phones would
> solve it.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> They say you shouldn't say anything about the dead unless it's good.
>
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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 09:17 AM
I don't know if there's any way to know other than by temporarily
turning off the 850 capability in your phone.
There's this:

SEEM 0025_0001

**all offsets are HEX**

offset 00 -
bit 0, bit 3: 900/1800 and 1900 (set each of
these bits to 1)
bit 0, bit 1, bit 3: 850/1900 and 900/1800 (set each of these bits
to 1)
bit 0, bit 2, bit 3: 850/1900 and 900 (set each of these bits to
1)
bit 2, bit 3: 850/1900 and 1800 (set each of these bits to 1)


FromevilsPGD
spamsucks@crazyhat.net

> I've got a V3 Razr -- I'm wondering if there is any way to tell
> whether the phone is using the 850MHz or 1900MHz band?
>
> The reason I ask, my parents have 1900MHz only phones, we're finding
> that I have reception in places where they don't have any signal at
> all.
>
> I'd like to tell whether it's just that their phones have worse RF
> performance in general, or whether buying 850MHz-capable phones would
> solve it.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> They say you shouldn't say anything about the dead unless it's good.
>
> "He's dead. Good."



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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 09:51 AM
In message <8qeQe.7008$HR5.5098@tornado.socal.rr.com> "BruceR"
<brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:

>I don't know if there's any way to know other than by temporarily
>turning off the 850 capability in your phone.
> There's this:
>
> SEEM 0025_0001
>
>**all offsets are HEX**
>
>offset 00 -
> bit 0, bit 3: 900/1800 and 1900 (set each of
>these bits to 1)
> bit 0, bit 1, bit 3: 850/1900 and 900/1800 (set each of these bits
>to 1)
> bit 0, bit 2, bit 3: 850/1900 and 900 (set each of these bits to
>1)
> bit 2, bit 3: 850/1900 and 1800 (set each of these bits to 1)


That will probably do the trick, it's good enough to test a few specific
places. Thanks!

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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 09:51 AM
In message <8qeQe.7008$HR5.5098@tornado.socal.rr.com> "BruceR"
<brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:

>I don't know if there's any way to know other than by temporarily
>turning off the 850 capability in your phone.
> There's this:
>
> SEEM 0025_0001
>
>**all offsets are HEX**
>
>offset 00 -
> bit 0, bit 3: 900/1800 and 1900 (set each of
>these bits to 1)
> bit 0, bit 1, bit 3: 850/1900 and 900/1800 (set each of these bits
>to 1)
> bit 0, bit 2, bit 3: 850/1900 and 900 (set each of these bits to
>1)
> bit 2, bit 3: 850/1900 and 1800 (set each of these bits to 1)


That will probably do the trick, it's good enough to test a few specific
places. Thanks!

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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 06:38 PM
Can't you manually select the network? If so, you should be able to see
which network you have access to, which the other phones don't see.

Mike Schumann

"DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:mqn2h1tlcjv6kqj9ud3c5a9bdcm46c9dfe@4ax.com...
> I've got a V3 Razr -- I'm wondering if there is any way to tell whether
> the phone is using the 850MHz or 1900MHz band?
>
> The reason I ask, my parents have 1900MHz only phones, we're finding
> that I have reception in places where they don't have any signal at all.
>
> I'd like to tell whether it's just that their phones have worse RF
> performance in general, or whether buying 850MHz-capable phones would
> solve it.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> They say you shouldn't say anything about the dead unless it's good.
>
> "He's dead. Good."



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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 06:38 PM
Can't you manually select the network? If so, you should be able to see
which network you have access to, which the other phones don't see.

Mike Schumann

"DevilsPGD" <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote in message
news:mqn2h1tlcjv6kqj9ud3c5a9bdcm46c9dfe@4ax.com...
> I've got a V3 Razr -- I'm wondering if there is any way to tell whether
> the phone is using the 850MHz or 1900MHz band?
>
> The reason I ask, my parents have 1900MHz only phones, we're finding
> that I have reception in places where they don't have any signal at all.
>
> I'd like to tell whether it's just that their phones have worse RF
> performance in general, or whether buying 850MHz-capable phones would
> solve it.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> --
> They say you shouldn't say anything about the dead unless it's good.
>
> "He's dead. Good."



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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 07:24 PM
In message <GEmQe.3601$FW1.3177@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net> "Mike
Schumann" <mike-nospam@traditions-nospam.com> wrote:

>Can't you manually select the network? If so, you should be able to see
>which network you have access to, which the other phones don't see.


The only network I see is "Rogers", it doesn't differentiate between
Rogers' 1900MHz band and the Rogers 850MHz band.

Unless I missed something obvious, I'm still not 100% familiar with this
phone (and not going to start hax0ring until I feel I'm ready to fix it
if I screw up

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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 07:24 PM
In message <GEmQe.3601$FW1.3177@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink. net> "Mike
Schumann" <mike-nospam@traditions-nospam.com> wrote:

>Can't you manually select the network? If so, you should be able to see
>which network you have access to, which the other phones don't see.


The only network I see is "Rogers", it doesn't differentiate between
Rogers' 1900MHz band and the Rogers 850MHz band.

Unless I missed something obvious, I'm still not 100% familiar with this
phone (and not going to start hax0ring until I feel I'm ready to fix it
if I screw up

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Re: V3 Razr: Which band is being used?
Posted: 08-28-2005, 09:46 PM
In alt.cellular.motorola DevilsPGD <spamsucks@crazyhat.net> wrote:
> The only network I see is "Rogers", it doesn't differentiate between
> Rogers' 1900MHz band and the Rogers 850MHz band.



My V551 allows me to select 850/1900 or 900/1800, but doesn't allow me to
select half of either of those.

<http://tutorials.cingular.com/tutorial/web_tutorials/tutorialRouter?deviceId=7410&subscriberType=cing&t utId=126080&fetIndex=1&tutIndex=8>

Is a Cingular page that shows V3 steps for selecting a carrier, which should let
you see if there is a roaming carrier that is playing with one of the phones.
That isn't available on my V551.

I used to have a bag phone that let you see a diagnostic screen of all
kinds of cell tower debugging information. A little interesting, and
useful for a case like this.

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