mobile phond tool charges

It costs nothing to use MPT and the MultiMedia Studio only lets you play
with your own pictures - it doesn't go out and buy anything.

From:Big John
watson6918@invalid.sbcglobal.net

> I recently acquired a v220 and the grandkids think it's great!!They
> have now loaded Mobile Phone Tools 3.11 on my laptop and want to
> download pictures from the camera to the laptop. I know that some of
> the stuff available on MPT can be costly but they insist that it
> doesn't cost anything to download pictures. I figure anytime I use
> the "Multimedia Studio" that somebody is going to get into my
> pocket. Am I wrong? Where can I get the straight story on what costs
> and what doesn't when using the MPT.
>
> Thanks--
>
> Big John

How about using the MPT to get into the Internet and e-mail? I have an
existing account with SBC and can dial into it, but one of the "techs"
(more like a "clerk") at the Cingular store spooked me by warning that
I could run up a humongous cingular bill by going into my existing
e-mail and Internet using my cell phone. When I mentioned MPT, he
suddenly went blank--. That was the whole reason I originally acquired
the MPT was to do that when I am on the road and don't have access to a
land line. I figured I had better find a better source of knowledge!

Years ago I did this with an old Nokia phone and Juno and it only cost
air time on the phone.

Thanks for any help!!

BJ


BruceR wrote:
> It costs nothing to use MPT and the MultiMedia Studio only lets you play
> with your own pictures - it doesn't go out and buy anything.
>
> From:Big John
> watson6918@invalid.sbcglobal.net
>
>
>>I recently acquired a v220 and the grandkids think it's great!!They
>>have now loaded Mobile Phone Tools 3.11 on my laptop and want to
>>download pictures from the camera to the laptop. I know that some of
>>the stuff available on MPT can be costly but they insist that it
>>doesn't cost anything to download pictures. I figure anytime I use
>>the "Multimedia Studio" that somebody is going to get into my
>>pocket. Am I wrong? Where can I get the straight story on what costs
>>and what doesn't when using the MPT.
>>
>>Thanks--
>>
>>Big John
>
>
>

How about using the MPT to get into the Internet and e-mail? I have an
existing account with SBC and can dial into it, but one of the "techs"
(more like a "clerk") at the Cingular store spooked me by warning that
I could run up a humongous cingular bill by going into my existing
e-mail and Internet using my cell phone. When I mentioned MPT, he
suddenly went blank--. That was the whole reason I originally acquired
the MPT was to do that when I am on the road and don't have access to a
land line. I figured I had better find a better source of knowledge!

Years ago I did this with an old Nokia phone and Juno and it only cost
air time on the phone.

Thanks for any help!!

BJ


BruceR wrote:
> It costs nothing to use MPT and the MultiMedia Studio only lets you play
> with your own pictures - it doesn't go out and buy anything.
>
> From:Big John
> watson6918@invalid.sbcglobal.net
>
>
>>I recently acquired a v220 and the grandkids think it's great!!They
>>have now loaded Mobile Phone Tools 3.11 on my laptop and want to
>>download pictures from the camera to the laptop. I know that some of
>>the stuff available on MPT can be costly but they insist that it
>>doesn't cost anything to download pictures. I figure anytime I use
>>the "Multimedia Studio" that somebody is going to get into my
>>pocket. Am I wrong? Where can I get the straight story on what costs
>>and what doesn't when using the MPT.
>>
>>Thanks--
>>
>>Big John
>
>
>

Big John <watson6918@invalid.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> How about using the MPT to get into the Internet and e-mail? I have an
> existing account with SBC and can dial into it, but one of the "techs"
> (more like a "clerk") at the Cingular store spooked me by warning that
> I could run up a humongous cingular bill by going into my existing
> e-mail and Internet using my cell phone. When I mentioned MPT, he
> suddenly went blank--. That was the whole reason I originally acquired
> the MPT was to do that when I am on the road and don't have access to a
> land line. I figured I had better find a better source of knowledge!

What you want is to tether your phone to your PC. The v220 uses a standard
USB cable. I used the one from my HP camera or Sony MP3 player.

You also need a driver for the USB modem. You get that with MPT.
Without MPT, Cingular has a tutorial about USB cable connections.
www.cingular.com customer_service phones&devices
Device Tutorials, select the Motorola V220.
USB Cable Setup - WinXP
"Download and install Cingular Connection Manager"
You don't really care about the Connection Manager, but installing it (and
then uninstalling it) gives you the USB modem drivers that you need to use
the v220 as a tethered device.


I went to http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net and enabled my MediaNet
account. I already had a $9.99 Media Basic package on my account, allowing
my to surf the web from my phone. I think that is needed as well.

> Years ago I did this with an old Nokia phone and Juno and it only cost
> air time on the phone.

Cingular wouldn't activate "CSD" for me. The fax option with MPT is
useless without that, and I can't do dialup access to my ISP.

There are several packages available for data access to the internet via
GPRS, instead of dialup, which is probably why Cellular won't activate the
CSD anymore. CSD could be used unlimited on nights and weekends with
voice minutes.

GPRS data is available for $0.01 per KB, or in various packages intended
for viewing web pages via the browser in your phone, topping out at $19.99
for unlimited data per month (but no messages).
https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase There are bundles that
include messages, but those top out at 5MB allowance per month, and cannot
be combined with a Media Net package. I used 14MB in my first month.

The tethered data connect plans only appear on the business pages. There
is the $80 Data Connect and a $44 PDA connect, each with unlimited data.
http://www.cingular.com/sbusiness/data_connect

What isn't clear is why a particular amount of data traveling via a
tethered cable to a PC costs more than the same data, both amount and
actual data content, going to a PDA, and that costs more than identical
data viewed with the browser built into your phone. It also isn't clear
why those tethered packages aren't offered to non-business users. I can't
log in to ISP.cingular.com with the Cingular account that I have.

What is clear is that there are two different logins to the GPRS network.
WAP.cingular.com is used by your phone, and ISP.cingular.com is used by
your PC. I don't know what the PDA is supposed to use.

http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/ addresses some of the confusion
on this topic.

GPRS with the V220 isn't all that fast, maybe comparable to a 56K dialup.

--
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

Big John <watson6918@invalid.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> How about using the MPT to get into the Internet and e-mail? I have an
> existing account with SBC and can dial into it, but one of the "techs"
> (more like a "clerk") at the Cingular store spooked me by warning that
> I could run up a humongous cingular bill by going into my existing
> e-mail and Internet using my cell phone. When I mentioned MPT, he
> suddenly went blank--. That was the whole reason I originally acquired
> the MPT was to do that when I am on the road and don't have access to a
> land line. I figured I had better find a better source of knowledge!

What you want is to tether your phone to your PC. The v220 uses a standard
USB cable. I used the one from my HP camera or Sony MP3 player.

You also need a driver for the USB modem. You get that with MPT.
Without MPT, Cingular has a tutorial about USB cable connections.
www.cingular.com customer_service phones&devices
Device Tutorials, select the Motorola V220.
USB Cable Setup - WinXP
"Download and install Cingular Connection Manager"
You don't really care about the Connection Manager, but installing it (and
then uninstalling it) gives you the USB modem drivers that you need to use
the v220 as a tethered device.


I went to http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net and enabled my MediaNet
account. I already had a $9.99 Media Basic package on my account, allowing
my to surf the web from my phone. I think that is needed as well.

> Years ago I did this with an old Nokia phone and Juno and it only cost
> air time on the phone.

Cingular wouldn't activate "CSD" for me. The fax option with MPT is
useless without that, and I can't do dialup access to my ISP.

There are several packages available for data access to the internet via
GPRS, instead of dialup, which is probably why Cellular won't activate the
CSD anymore. CSD could be used unlimited on nights and weekends with
voice minutes.

GPRS data is available for $0.01 per KB, or in various packages intended
for viewing web pages via the browser in your phone, topping out at $19.99
for unlimited data per month (but no messages).
https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase There are bundles that
include messages, but those top out at 5MB allowance per month, and cannot
be combined with a Media Net package. I used 14MB in my first month.

The tethered data connect plans only appear on the business pages. There
is the $80 Data Connect and a $44 PDA connect, each with unlimited data.
http://www.cingular.com/sbusiness/data_connect

What isn't clear is why a particular amount of data traveling via a
tethered cable to a PC costs more than the same data, both amount and
actual data content, going to a PDA, and that costs more than identical
data viewed with the browser built into your phone. It also isn't clear
why those tethered packages aren't offered to non-business users. I can't
log in to ISP.cingular.com with the Cingular account that I have.

What is clear is that there are two different logins to the GPRS network.
WAP.cingular.com is used by your phone, and ISP.cingular.com is used by
your PC. I don't know what the PDA is supposed to use.

http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/ addresses some of the confusion
on this topic.

GPRS with the V220 isn't all that fast, maybe comparable to a 56K dialup.

--
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Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5

Hey, thanks very much. I think you have told me what I want to know,
i.e. I can't dial into my ISP the way I had hoped, without enabling my
MediaNet account, which I'm not interested in right now. I have the
cable and software and have tethered my phone, and have even moved some
pictures from my phone to my laptop.(They are better than I figured they
would be) so guess I had better let well enough alone.

Thanks for all the info-- I shall place it in my "good things to know"
for future reference.

Big John


dold@XReXXmobil.usenet.us.com wrote:
> Big John <watson6918@invalid.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>How about using the MPT to get into the Internet and e-mail? I have an
>>existing account with SBC and can dial into it, but one of the "techs"
>>(more like a "clerk") at the Cingular store spooked me by warning that
>>I could run up a humongous cingular bill by going into my existing
>>e-mail and Internet using my cell phone. When I mentioned MPT, he
>>suddenly went blank--. That was the whole reason I originally acquired
>>the MPT was to do that when I am on the road and don't have access to a
>>land line. I figured I had better find a better source of knowledge!
>
>
> What you want is to tether your phone to your PC. The v220 uses a standard
> USB cable. I used the one from my HP camera or Sony MP3 player.
>
> You also need a driver for the USB modem. You get that with MPT.
> Without MPT, Cingular has a tutorial about USB cable connections.
> www.cingular.com customer_service phones&devices
> Device Tutorials, select the Motorola V220.
> USB Cable Setup - WinXP
> "Download and install Cingular Connection Manager"
> You don't really care about the Connection Manager, but installing it (and
> then uninstalling it) gives you the USB modem drivers that you need to use
> the v220 as a tethered device.
>
>
> I went to http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net and enabled my MediaNet
> account. I already had a $9.99 Media Basic package on my account, allowing
> my to surf the web from my phone. I think that is needed as well.
>
>
>>Years ago I did this with an old Nokia phone and Juno and it only cost
>>air time on the phone.
>
>
> Cingular wouldn't activate "CSD" for me. The fax option with MPT is
> useless without that, and I can't do dialup access to my ISP.
>
> There are several packages available for data access to the internet via
> GPRS, instead of dialup, which is probably why Cellular won't activate the
> CSD anymore. CSD could be used unlimited on nights and weekends with
> voice minutes.
>
> GPRS data is available for $0.01 per KB, or in various packages intended
> for viewing web pages via the browser in your phone, topping out at $19.99
> for unlimited data per month (but no messages).
> https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase There are bundles that
> include messages, but those top out at 5MB allowance per month, and cannot
> be combined with a Media Net package. I used 14MB in my first month.
>
> The tethered data connect plans only appear on the business pages. There
> is the $80 Data Connect and a $44 PDA connect, each with unlimited data.
> http://www.cingular.com/sbusiness/data_connect
>
> What isn't clear is why a particular amount of data traveling via a
> tethered cable to a PC costs more than the same data, both amount and
> actual data content, going to a PDA, and that costs more than identical
> data viewed with the browser built into your phone. It also isn't clear
> why those tethered packages aren't offered to non-business users. I can't
> log in to ISP.cingular.com with the Cingular account that I have.
>
> What is clear is that there are two different logins to the GPRS network.
> WAP.cingular.com is used by your phone, and ISP.cingular.com is used by
> your PC. I don't know what the PDA is supposed to use.
>
> http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/ addresses some of the confusion
> on this topic.
>
> GPRS with the V220 isn't all that fast, maybe comparable to a 56K dialup.
>

Hey, thanks very much. I think you have told me what I want to know,
i.e. I can't dial into my ISP the way I had hoped, without enabling my
MediaNet account, which I'm not interested in right now. I have the
cable and software and have tethered my phone, and have even moved some
pictures from my phone to my laptop.(They are better than I figured they
would be) so guess I had better let well enough alone.

Thanks for all the info-- I shall place it in my "good things to know"
for future reference.

Big John


dold@XReXXmobil.usenet.us.com wrote:
> Big John <watson6918@invalid.sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>>How about using the MPT to get into the Internet and e-mail? I have an
>>existing account with SBC and can dial into it, but one of the "techs"
>>(more like a "clerk") at the Cingular store spooked me by warning that
>>I could run up a humongous cingular bill by going into my existing
>>e-mail and Internet using my cell phone. When I mentioned MPT, he
>>suddenly went blank--. That was the whole reason I originally acquired
>>the MPT was to do that when I am on the road and don't have access to a
>>land line. I figured I had better find a better source of knowledge!
>
>
> What you want is to tether your phone to your PC. The v220 uses a standard
> USB cable. I used the one from my HP camera or Sony MP3 player.
>
> You also need a driver for the USB modem. You get that with MPT.
> Without MPT, Cingular has a tutorial about USB cable connections.
> www.cingular.com customer_service phones&devices
> Device Tutorials, select the Motorola V220.
> USB Cable Setup - WinXP
> "Download and install Cingular Connection Manager"
> You don't really care about the Connection Manager, but installing it (and
> then uninstalling it) gives you the USB modem drivers that you need to use
> the v220 as a tethered device.
>
>
> I went to http://www.cingular.com/media/media_net and enabled my MediaNet
> account. I already had a $9.99 Media Basic package on my account, allowing
> my to surf the web from my phone. I think that is needed as well.
>
>
>>Years ago I did this with an old Nokia phone and Juno and it only cost
>>air time on the phone.
>
>
> Cingular wouldn't activate "CSD" for me. The fax option with MPT is
> useless without that, and I can't do dialup access to my ISP.
>
> There are several packages available for data access to the internet via
> GPRS, instead of dialup, which is probably why Cellular won't activate the
> CSD anymore. CSD could be used unlimited on nights and weekends with
> voice minutes.
>
> GPRS data is available for $0.01 per KB, or in various packages intended
> for viewing web pages via the browser in your phone, topping out at $19.99
> for unlimited data per month (but no messages).
> https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase There are bundles that
> include messages, but those top out at 5MB allowance per month, and cannot
> be combined with a Media Net package. I used 14MB in my first month.
>
> The tethered data connect plans only appear on the business pages. There
> is the $80 Data Connect and a $44 PDA connect, each with unlimited data.
> http://www.cingular.com/sbusiness/data_connect
>
> What isn't clear is why a particular amount of data traveling via a
> tethered cable to a PC costs more than the same data, both amount and
> actual data content, going to a PDA, and that costs more than identical
> data viewed with the browser built into your phone. It also isn't clear
> why those tethered packages aren't offered to non-business users. I can't
> log in to ISP.cingular.com with the Cingular account that I have.
>
> What is clear is that there are two different logins to the GPRS network.
> WAP.cingular.com is used by your phone, and ISP.cingular.com is used by
> your PC. I don't know what the PDA is supposed to use.
>
> http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/ addresses some of the confusion
> on this topic.
>
> GPRS with the V220 isn't all that fast, maybe comparable to a 56K dialup.
>