confused about syncing and data cables

The Truesync software is now considered obsolete and was replaced by the
Mobile phonetools software.

"Monique Y. Mudama" <spam@bounceswoosh.org> wrote in message
news:slrndcc5gj.upv.spam@home.bounceswoosh.org...
> Hi all!
>
> After several years with a Motorola V60t, I've taken the plunge and
> moved on to a GSM phone, the Motorola V330. Decision's already made,
> so if anyone really doesn't like this phone, please don't tell me
> about it. I'll figure out whether or not I like it soon enough.
>
> I have Truesync installed and working with my old phone. Specifically,
> Truesync claims to be version 3.1.49.1. The "update" option for
> Truesync has never worked for me, but I've used Truesync to keep my
> handspring visor, palm desktop, and v60 all happily more-or-less in
> sync.
>
> I'd like to have that same capability with my new phone, but I admit
> to some confusion. Do I need a newer version of Truesync, or just a
> data cable with drivers? Will Truesync recognize my phone over
> bluetooth if I get a bluetooth dongle, and if so, where would I get
> the drivers? Is Truesync supported at all anymore, and if so, how
> would I get to tech support? Are there other options, or is Truesync
> it? Yes, Palm Desktop is ancient, but I'd rather not run Outlook, and
> I'm using a Windows box.
>
> Thanks in advance for any info.
>
> --
> monique

On 2005-07-02, Destrux penned:
> The Truesync software is now considered obsolete and was replaced by
> the Mobile phonetools software.

If I read the product description right, though, it supports only
outlook, outlook express, ms exchange, and lotus notes. I distinctly
remember nuking outlook express from my system. It's not exactly
known for being secure and bug-free.

*sigh*

I see no mention of syncing with my PDA, either.

Ah, well. Thanks. Looks like for my purposes at least, it's a major
step backwards from Truesync.

--
monique

On 2005-07-02, Destrux penned:
> The Truesync software is now considered obsolete and was replaced by
> the Mobile phonetools software.

If I read the product description right, though, it supports only
outlook, outlook express, ms exchange, and lotus notes. I distinctly
remember nuking outlook express from my system. It's not exactly
known for being secure and bug-free.

*sigh*

I see no mention of syncing with my PDA, either.

Ah, well. Thanks. Looks like for my purposes at least, it's a major
step backwards from Truesync.

--
monique

I am/will be in a similar situation. Albeit I updated my Palm software
and it left Truesync unable to work with my old V60 (GSM).

The only software available (to my knowledge) that syncs with the Palm
database is from DataPilot

http://datapilot.com/

Your old cable that worked with you V60 should be compatible with the
V330, but I have not personally verified that it works with
DataPilot.... but I believe it should...

You can buy/download it online...

If you do, could you please post or send me an email about how you feel
it works with the V330?

Thanks, SFB

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
> On 2005-07-02, Destrux penned:
>
>>The Truesync software is now considered obsolete and was replaced by
>>the Mobile phonetools software.
>
>
> If I read the product description right, though, it supports only
> outlook, outlook express, ms exchange, and lotus notes. I distinctly
> remember nuking outlook express from my system. It's not exactly
> known for being secure and bug-free.
>
> *sigh*
>
> I see no mention of syncing with my PDA, either.
>
> Ah, well. Thanks. Looks like for my purposes at least, it's a major
> step backwards from Truesync.
>

I am/will be in a similar situation. Albeit I updated my Palm software
and it left Truesync unable to work with my old V60 (GSM).

The only software available (to my knowledge) that syncs with the Palm
database is from DataPilot

http://datapilot.com/

Your old cable that worked with you V60 should be compatible with the
V330, but I have not personally verified that it works with
DataPilot.... but I believe it should...

You can buy/download it online...

If you do, could you please post or send me an email about how you feel
it works with the V330?

Thanks, SFB

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
> On 2005-07-02, Destrux penned:
>
>>The Truesync software is now considered obsolete and was replaced by
>>the Mobile phonetools software.
>
>
> If I read the product description right, though, it supports only
> outlook, outlook express, ms exchange, and lotus notes. I distinctly
> remember nuking outlook express from my system. It's not exactly
> known for being secure and bug-free.
>
> *sigh*
>
> I see no mention of syncing with my PDA, either.
>
> Ah, well. Thanks. Looks like for my purposes at least, it's a major
> step backwards from Truesync.
>

On 2005-07-02, SFB penned:
> I am/will be in a similar situation. Albeit I updated my Palm
> software and it left Truesync unable to work with my old V60 (GSM).
>
> The only software available (to my knowledge) that syncs with the
> Palm database is from DataPilot
>
> http://datapilot.com/
>
> Your old cable that worked with you V60 should be compatible with
> the V330, but I have not personally verified that it works with
> DataPilot.... but I believe it should...
>
> You can buy/download it online...
>
> If you do, could you please post or send me an email about how you
> feel it works with the V330?
>
> Thanks, SFB

Done ...

I downloaded DataPilot. They recommended that I buy their data
cables, of course, but I was able to use the cable that came with my
TrueSync with no trouble at all. The installer for both software and
drivers went smoothly.

Having played with this for about an hour now (I'll play with it more
later) ...

I have mixed opinions here.

My first comment would be that this is not true synchronization. You
can import numbers from several sources, and you can export them to
Outlook (only. You can import from Palm but not export to it). But
you can't say "make it all fit together and take the latest from
each," as you could with Truesync. That's kinda lame.

My second comment would be that Palm is definitely the redheaded
stepchild. You can't export phone numbers to Palm. You can't import
Palm's calendar at all. Claiming they work with Palm without stating
a caveat ... seems like false advertising to me.

That being said, I'm not too hung up about having my calendar on my
phone; I'm more concerned about the phone numbers. That part seems to
work pretty well. It's all or nothing; it overwrites the phone book
every time. But it knows how many numbers you can store, and you can
specify a number slot to put something on the phone or in SIM. The
interface seems cleaner and less buggy than Truesync was.

It also allows you to use up to eight phones on one license, so if you
have multiple people sharing one computer, that could be nice. Of
course you'd need the right cables, but it's not restricted to one
brand, either.

Eventually I'd like to get a powerbook, and there's apparently a Mac
version of DP ... it's just that with the support of Palm being as
poor as it is on the Windows version, I have to wonder what exactly is
available for the Mac version.


--
monique

On 2005-07-02, SFB penned:
> I am/will be in a similar situation. Albeit I updated my Palm
> software and it left Truesync unable to work with my old V60 (GSM).
>
> The only software available (to my knowledge) that syncs with the
> Palm database is from DataPilot
>
> http://datapilot.com/
>
> Your old cable that worked with you V60 should be compatible with
> the V330, but I have not personally verified that it works with
> DataPilot.... but I believe it should...
>
> You can buy/download it online...
>
> If you do, could you please post or send me an email about how you
> feel it works with the V330?
>
> Thanks, SFB

Done ...

I downloaded DataPilot. They recommended that I buy their data
cables, of course, but I was able to use the cable that came with my
TrueSync with no trouble at all. The installer for both software and
drivers went smoothly.

Having played with this for about an hour now (I'll play with it more
later) ...

I have mixed opinions here.

My first comment would be that this is not true synchronization. You
can import numbers from several sources, and you can export them to
Outlook (only. You can import from Palm but not export to it). But
you can't say "make it all fit together and take the latest from
each," as you could with Truesync. That's kinda lame.

My second comment would be that Palm is definitely the redheaded
stepchild. You can't export phone numbers to Palm. You can't import
Palm's calendar at all. Claiming they work with Palm without stating
a caveat ... seems like false advertising to me.

That being said, I'm not too hung up about having my calendar on my
phone; I'm more concerned about the phone numbers. That part seems to
work pretty well. It's all or nothing; it overwrites the phone book
every time. But it knows how many numbers you can store, and you can
specify a number slot to put something on the phone or in SIM. The
interface seems cleaner and less buggy than Truesync was.

It also allows you to use up to eight phones on one license, so if you
have multiple people sharing one computer, that could be nice. Of
course you'd need the right cables, but it's not restricted to one
brand, either.

Eventually I'd like to get a powerbook, and there's apparently a Mac
version of DP ... it's just that with the support of Palm being as
poor as it is on the Windows version, I have to wonder what exactly is
available for the Mac version.


--
monique

Monique, thanks for your detailed review! I always have problems with
the last version of Truesync, especially with the Palm OS upgrade I did.
Seemed to always get two entries... one on the SIM card the other on
the phone... always had to delete one... it was a pain but still a lot
less work than manually putting all those numbers in my phone (over 300)...

Bummer that it won't sync both ways... phone to computer and computer to
phone

As for the calendar, most of the time I still carry my Palm around for
that anyway... if needed. I already have the V60 cable like you so that
will work if I get the V330, but it looks like the V3 Razr, coming out
on TMobile USA on July 11th, has a different connector... thanks
Motorola! I will see what I can find online cable wise for the Razr if
I go that way. It depends on cost ultimately...

Since you can choose to load numbers to the SIM or the phone, maybe you
can load everything in the Palm Desktop database to the SIM, and nothing
to the phone. Then as you add numbers during the day, you can save
those numbers to the PHONE... "maybe" when you sync the next time it
won't touch the phone entries since you are not uploading any to it...
do you understand what I am trying to say?

Well, good luck and please keep me posted as the Razr is till about a
week away...

SFB

Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
> On 2005-07-02, SFB penned:
>
>>I am/will be in a similar situation. Albeit I updated my Palm
>>software and it left Truesync unable to work with my old V60 (GSM).
>>
>>The only software available (to my knowledge) that syncs with the
>>Palm database is from DataPilot
>>
>>http://datapilot.com/
>>
>>Your old cable that worked with you V60 should be compatible with
>>the V330, but I have not personally verified that it works with
>>DataPilot.... but I believe it should...
>>
>>You can buy/download it online...
>>
>>If you do, could you please post or send me an email about how you
>>feel it works with the V330?
>>
>>Thanks, SFB
>
>
> Done ...
>
> I downloaded DataPilot. They recommended that I buy their data
> cables, of course, but I was able to use the cable that came with my
> TrueSync with no trouble at all. The installer for both software and
> drivers went smoothly.
>
> Having played with this for about an hour now (I'll play with it more
> later) ...
>
> I have mixed opinions here.
>
> My first comment would be that this is not true synchronization. You
> can import numbers from several sources, and you can export them to
> Outlook (only. You can import from Palm but not export to it). But
> you can't say "make it all fit together and take the latest from
> each," as you could with Truesync. That's kinda lame.
>
> My second comment would be that Palm is definitely the redheaded
> stepchild. You can't export phone numbers to Palm. You can't import
> Palm's calendar at all. Claiming they work with Palm without stating
> a caveat ... seems like false advertising to me.
>
> That being said, I'm not too hung up about having my calendar on my
> phone; I'm more concerned about the phone numbers. That part seems to
> work pretty well. It's all or nothing; it overwrites the phone book
> every time. But it knows how many numbers you can store, and you can
> specify a number slot to put something on the phone or in SIM. The
> interface seems cleaner and less buggy than Truesync was.
>
> It also allows you to use up to eight phones on one license, so if you
> have multiple people sharing one computer, that could be nice. Of
> course you'd need the right cables, but it's not restricted to one
> brand, either.
>
> Eventually I'd like to get a powerbook, and there's apparently a Mac
> version of DP ... it's just that with the support of Palm being as
> poor as it is on the Windows version, I have to wonder what exactly is
> available for the Mac version.
>
>