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Re: V710 and OBEX

Posted: 06-29-2005, 09:49 PM
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"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
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>I just found this on Motorola's web site:
>
> "The V710 phone hardware regardless of carrier software does not support
> the SPP (Serial Port Profile) or OBEX (Object Exchange) profile that
> most devices require to access the phonebook or transfer files. These
> features can not be added via a software upgrade. Particularly this is
> an issue when customers want to get their phonebook out of the phone and
> into their non-Motorola Bluetooth Car Kit. Our Motorola IHF1000 and OEM
> Telematics Bluetooth Car Kits allow access to the phonebook through the
> Bluetooth connection using the Motorola AT commands available to
> registered developers at www.motocoder.com."

> Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.

Is there a point to this post? This has been known ever since the V710
came out.


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Re: V710 and OBEX
Posted: 06-30-2005, 07:30 AM
Michelle Steiner wrote:
> Now, Motorola is saying that it doesn't matter which carrier--the phone
> will never support OBEX, and no software upgrade can change that.

Given that BT profiles are just software using the underlying BT RF
hardware, I wonder how it can be that no software upgrade can change it?
That's the whole idea of protocol stacks such as defined by BT: the
layers at the bottom have no idea what is running on top of them.
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Re: V710 and OBEX
Posted: 06-30-2005, 07:30 AM
Michelle Steiner wrote:
> Now, Motorola is saying that it doesn't matter which carrier--the phone
> will never support OBEX, and no software upgrade can change that.

Given that BT profiles are just software using the underlying BT RF
hardware, I wonder how it can be that no software upgrade can change it?
That's the whole idea of protocol stacks such as defined by BT: the
layers at the bottom have no idea what is running on top of them.
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Re: V710 and OBEX
Posted: 06-30-2005, 11:24 PM
It's all Bush's fault!


"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
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> In article <skMwe.1535$0V3.1503@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
> CharlesH <hoch@exemplary.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > Now, Motorola is saying that it doesn't matter which carrier--the
>> > phone will never support OBEX, and no software upgrade can change
>> > that.
>>
>> Given that BT profiles are just software using the underlying BT RF
>> hardware, I wonder how it can be that no software upgrade can change
>> it?
>
> Well, there is either a valid reason or else Motorola is lying.
>
> --
> Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.


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Re: V710 and OBEX
Posted: 06-30-2005, 11:24 PM
It's all Bush's fault!


"Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
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> In article <skMwe.1535$0V3.1503@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
> CharlesH <hoch@exemplary.invalid> wrote:
>
>> > Now, Motorola is saying that it doesn't matter which carrier--the
>> > phone will never support OBEX, and no software upgrade can change
>> > that.
>>
>> Given that BT profiles are just software using the underlying BT RF
>> hardware, I wonder how it can be that no software upgrade can change
>> it?
>
> Well, there is either a valid reason or else Motorola is lying.
>
> --
> Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.


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Re: V710 and OBEX
Posted: 07-03-2005, 02:49 AM
If I were motorola I'd be lying too. I bet they get tons of calls from
people whining to them and I'm sure there's no legal reason they
couldn't get away with that - only people internal to motorola know the
truth and as long as they don't leak it, Mot can lie all day long and
consumers wouldn't be the wiser.

But don't get me wrong, I want OBEX and OPP as much as the next guy,
selling crippled phones is outright lying, and if I remember right, the
original v710 ad campaign and literature did list capabilities such as
those...but then the listing of them started disappearing as more people
complained.

Skuzz

AL wrote:
> It's all Bush's fault!
>
>
> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
> news:michelle-40ABB8.00093830062005@news.west.cox.net...
>
>>In article <skMwe.1535$0V3.1503@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
>>CharlesH <hoch@exemplary.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Now, Motorola is saying that it doesn't matter which carrier--the
>>>>phone will never support OBEX, and no software upgrade can change
>>>>that.
>>>
>>>Given that BT profiles are just software using the underlying BT RF
>>>hardware, I wonder how it can be that no software upgrade can change
>>>it?
>>
>>Well, there is either a valid reason or else Motorola is lying.
>>
>>--
>>Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
>
>
>
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Re: V710 and OBEX
Posted: 07-03-2005, 02:49 AM
If I were motorola I'd be lying too. I bet they get tons of calls from
people whining to them and I'm sure there's no legal reason they
couldn't get away with that - only people internal to motorola know the
truth and as long as they don't leak it, Mot can lie all day long and
consumers wouldn't be the wiser.

But don't get me wrong, I want OBEX and OPP as much as the next guy,
selling crippled phones is outright lying, and if I remember right, the
original v710 ad campaign and literature did list capabilities such as
those...but then the listing of them started disappearing as more people
complained.

Skuzz

AL wrote:
> It's all Bush's fault!
>
>
> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
> news:michelle-40ABB8.00093830062005@news.west.cox.net...
>
>>In article <skMwe.1535$0V3.1503@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
>>CharlesH <hoch@exemplary.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>Now, Motorola is saying that it doesn't matter which carrier--the
>>>>phone will never support OBEX, and no software upgrade can change
>>>>that.
>>>
>>>Given that BT profiles are just software using the underlying BT RF
>>>hardware, I wonder how it can be that no software upgrade can change
>>>it?
>>
>>Well, there is either a valid reason or else Motorola is lying.
>>
>>--
>>Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
>
>
>
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Re: V710 and OBEX
Posted: 07-10-2005, 01:31 AM
Nice to be back on Topic lol
It was also claimed Telus used a software version that included crippled BT,
but now if Moto is saying thats the way it is staying and no one has ever
got it fully functional, and since Moto is the one that mainly makes the
software to providers specs, I guess it is safe to say yup, the v710 sux.
Michelle--Loved reading your responses, you owned the thread ~_^
"Skuzz" <skuzz@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> If I were motorola I'd be lying too. I bet they get tons of calls from
> people whining to them and I'm sure there's no legal reason they couldn't
> get away with that - only people internal to motorola know the truth and
> as long as they don't leak it, Mot can lie all day long and consumers
> wouldn't be the wiser.
>
> But don't get me wrong, I want OBEX and OPP as much as the next guy,
> selling crippled phones is outright lying, and if I remember right, the
> original v710 ad campaign and literature did list capabilities such as
> those...but then the listing of them started disappearing as more people
> complained.
>
> Skuzz
>
> AL wrote:
>> It's all Bush's fault!
>>
>>
>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>> news:michelle-40ABB8.00093830062005@news.west.cox.net...
>>
>>>In article <skMwe.1535$0V3.1503@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
>>>CharlesH <hoch@exemplary.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Now, Motorola is saying that it doesn't matter which carrier--the
>>>>>phone will never support OBEX, and no software upgrade can change
>>>>>that.
>>>>
>>>>Given that BT profiles are just software using the underlying BT RF
>>>>hardware, I wonder how it can be that no software upgrade can change
>>>>it?
>>>
>>>Well, there is either a valid reason or else Motorola is lying.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
>>
>>

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Re: V710 and OBEX
Posted: 07-10-2005, 01:31 AM
Nice to be back on Topic lol
It was also claimed Telus used a software version that included crippled BT,
but now if Moto is saying thats the way it is staying and no one has ever
got it fully functional, and since Moto is the one that mainly makes the
software to providers specs, I guess it is safe to say yup, the v710 sux.
Michelle--Loved reading your responses, you owned the thread ~_^
"Skuzz" <skuzz@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> If I were motorola I'd be lying too. I bet they get tons of calls from
> people whining to them and I'm sure there's no legal reason they couldn't
> get away with that - only people internal to motorola know the truth and
> as long as they don't leak it, Mot can lie all day long and consumers
> wouldn't be the wiser.
>
> But don't get me wrong, I want OBEX and OPP as much as the next guy,
> selling crippled phones is outright lying, and if I remember right, the
> original v710 ad campaign and literature did list capabilities such as
> those...but then the listing of them started disappearing as more people
> complained.
>
> Skuzz
>
> AL wrote:
>> It's all Bush's fault!
>>
>>
>> "Michelle Steiner" <michelle@michelle.org> wrote in message
>> news:michelle-40ABB8.00093830062005@news.west.cox.net...
>>
>>>In article <skMwe.1535$0V3.1503@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> ,
>>>CharlesH <hoch@exemplary.invalid> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>>Now, Motorola is saying that it doesn't matter which carrier--the
>>>>>phone will never support OBEX, and no software upgrade can change
>>>>>that.
>>>>
>>>>Given that BT profiles are just software using the underlying BT RF
>>>>hardware, I wonder how it can be that no software upgrade can change
>>>>it?
>>>
>>>Well, there is either a valid reason or else Motorola is lying.
>>>
>>>--
>>>Stop Mad Cowboy Disease: Impeach the son of a Bush.
>>
>>

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