V3 RAZR Question

In article <jqI5e.854$ha3.625@trndny02>,
Rolling Rock 33 <m.midnightranger@verizon.net> wrote:
>Here's another question for the group. Will a Motorola V3 RAZR phone work
>with the AT&T Wireless network?

The V3 is distributed exclusively in the US by Cingular.
Those phones are subsidy-locked to Cingular SIMs.

If you had an active AT&T SIM and wanted to put it in the V3, then yes,
it would need to be unlocked in order to use.

If you don't have an active AT&T SIM, the question is irrelevant as
Cingular is not activating new AT&T accounts, and the only SIM you would
get from Cingular is one that would work on a locked V3.

Okay, so I could then take the SIM chip from my Motorola V180 phone and put
it in a V3 RAZR phone, and it would work? All I would have to do is purchase
a RAZR phone unlocked? Does this mean then, that I could use a RAZR, since I
am already an ATTWS/Cingular customer? I know that when I had to get my
phone replaced under there warranty plan, I just put the SIM chip in the new
phone and it worked immediately. Same concept here then basically?

yes, that's right.

From:Rolling Rock 33
m.midnightranger@verizon.net

> Okay, so I could then take the SIM chip from my Motorola V180 phone
> and put it in a V3 RAZR phone, and it would work? All I would have to
> do is purchase a RAZR phone unlocked? Does this mean then, that I
> could use a RAZR, since I am already an ATTWS/Cingular customer? I
> know that when I had to get my phone replaced under there warranty
> plan, I just put the SIM chip in the new phone and it worked
> immediately. Same concept here then basically?

In article <_DZ5e.3424$Fm5.3319@trndny09>,
Rolling Rock 33 <m.midnightranger@verizon.net> wrote:
>Okay, so I could then take the SIM chip from my Motorola V180 phone and put
>it in a V3 RAZR phone, and it would work? All I would have to do is purchase
>a RAZR phone unlocked? Does this mean then, that I could use a RAZR, since I
>am already an ATTWS/Cingular customer? I know that when I had to get my
>phone replaced under there warranty plan, I just put the SIM chip in the new
>phone and it worked immediately. Same concept here then basically?

Yes, except that there is no such thing as an ATTWS/Cingular SIM.
There is an ATTWS SIM, and there is a Cingular SIM.
A Cingular-locked RAZR will accept a Cingular SIM but **NOT** an ATTWS
SIM.

So, yes ... the RAZR would have to be unlocked, and Cingular does not sell
them that way.

If that's the case (which it wasn't for my partner's wife) why not just
ask Cingular for a new SIM? Since the two companies are now one I'd
think they'd be happy to give you a new SIM when you buy a phone.

From:Mike S.
retsuhcs@xinap.moc

> In article <_DZ5e.3424$Fm5.3319@trndny09>,
> Rolling Rock 33 <m.midnightranger@verizon.net> wrote:
>> Okay, so I could then take the SIM chip from my Motorola V180 phone
>> and put it in a V3 RAZR phone, and it would work? All I would have
>> to do is purchase a RAZR phone unlocked? Does this mean then, that I
>> could use a RAZR, since I am already an ATTWS/Cingular customer? I
>> know that when I had to get my phone replaced under there warranty
>> plan, I just put the SIM chip in the new phone and it worked
>> immediately. Same concept here then basically?
>
> Yes, except that there is no such thing as an ATTWS/Cingular SIM.
> There is an ATTWS SIM, and there is a Cingular SIM.
> A Cingular-locked RAZR will accept a Cingular SIM but **NOT** an ATTWS
> SIM.
>
> So, yes ... the RAZR would have to be unlocked, and Cingular does not
> sell them that way.

alright heres the story, the V3 is sold in the united states locked t
cingular only, meaning that only cingular specific SIM cards would wor
on the phone, not other sim period. any other SIM card, T-Mobile an
ATTWS for example, will only work in the V3 if it is unlocked. now t
settle the confusion, if you have a CINGULAR SIM, then you have
CINGULAR rate plan and are there for an ORANGE CINGULAR customer, i
you have an ATTWS SIM, then it means you have an ATTWS rate plan an
are a BLUE CINGULAR customer. Just because they merged doesn't mea
that their phones and sims are interswappable. in conclusion, if yo
want to put an ATTWS sim in a v3, make sure it is unlocked since ther
are no v3's for sale that are non-CINGULAR specific. hope that helps
whe

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In article <7r26e.134$5c7.66@twister.socal.rr.com>,
BruceR <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:
>
>From:Mike S.
>retsuhcs@xinap.moc
>
>> In article <_DZ5e.3424$Fm5.3319@trndny09>,
>> Rolling Rock 33 <m.midnightranger@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Okay, so I could then take the SIM chip from my Motorola V180 phone
>>> and put it in a V3 RAZR phone, and it would work? All I would have
>>> to do is purchase a RAZR phone unlocked? Does this mean then, that I
>>> could use a RAZR, since I am already an ATTWS/Cingular customer? I
>>> know that when I had to get my phone replaced under there warranty
>>> plan, I just put the SIM chip in the new phone and it worked
>>> immediately. Same concept here then basically?
>>
>> Yes, except that there is no such thing as an ATTWS/Cingular SIM.
>> There is an ATTWS SIM, and there is a Cingular SIM.
>> A Cingular-locked RAZR will accept a Cingular SIM but **NOT** an ATTWS
>> SIM.
>>
>> So, yes ... the RAZR would have to be unlocked, and Cingular does not
>> sell them that way.
>
>If that's the case (which it wasn't for my partner's wife) why not just
>ask Cingular for a new SIM? Since the two companies are now one I'd
>think they'd be happy to give you a new SIM when you buy a phone.

To do that, you must transition from an ATTWS account to a Cingular
account ... sign a contract, and pay an upgrade fee.

Okay, so that makes perfect sense, and it sounds great. So now all I have to
do is purchase one of the V3 RAZR phones that are unlocked, from a seller on
Ebay. Sounds great all over. I get to use a new RAZR phone, and keep all of
my benefits that I got with my old AT&T plan. Does that about sum it up?