Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"

Posted: 03-23-2005, 03:52 PM
I got a new LG VX3200 phone in October and it has been a good unit,
except that lately I am getting calls from people and when I answer,
they can hear me, but I can't hear them. I call them back and we have a
regular conversation.

Then I am dropping calls for no reason while driving or while sitting
still (not moving) in a car or in a store. The signal strength varies
from 5 bars to no bars.

I took it into two different Verizon stores with technicians working
there. They didn't do anything other than call my phone while I was in
the store and pretty much go "can you hear me now....good!". One guy
told me that my roaming software needed to be updated - he said I had
the next to last version. I asked him why he didn't hook up the phone to
their diagnostic computer, and he told me they sent it out for
calibration and they haven't come back yet.

That seems like a crock of shit to me - it really sounds like Verizon
got rid of their Marconi diagnostic machines, and it's cheaper for them
to swap out phones if your phone is under warranty - usually with a
refurbished unit. Otherwise you have to pay full pop for a new phone,
and extend your contract. If your phone has intermittent problems, you
are screwed unless the phone acts up while you are in the store.

Why do they sell phones under a new every two plan, essentially selling
a two-year calling plan, when they know the phones won't last the full
time? I mean I know that they are a company trying to make money, but
it seems like they are committing fraud if they sell phone under a two
year plan and they haev no way to diagnose or fix phones they know won't
last two years without problems.
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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-23-2005, 04:22 PM
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In <Lgg0e.2883$S46.264@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.n et> on Wed, 23 Mar 2005
15:52:11 GMT, USENET READER <usenetreader1234@earthlink.net> wrote:

>Why do they sell phones under a new every two plan, essentially selling
>a two-year calling plan, when they know the phones won't last the full
>time? I mean I know that they are a company trying to make money, but
>it seems like they are committing fraud if they sell phone under a two
>year plan and they haev no way to diagnose or fix phones they know won't
>last two years without problems.


1. The great majority of phones, if not abused, will easily last for at least
two years.

2. There's nothing wrong with repair by replacement.

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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-23-2005, 05:45 PM
USENET READER wrote:
>
> Why do they sell phones under a new every two plan,
> essentially selling a two-year calling plan, when they
> know the phones won't last the full time? I mean I know
> that they are a company trying to make money, but it
> seems like they are committing fraud if they sell phone
> under a two year plan and they haev no way to diagnose or
> fix phones they know won't last two years without
> problems.


Let's see... the newest phone I have is a 2 year old
7135. The next is my trusty TM-510 -- must be about
4 years old. My oldest is a startac with a led display
(analog only) -- age unknown... All work just fine and
all have a lot of miles on them.

You need a phone to use the service.
You can buy a phone at full retail with NO plan.
You pick a service plan. They will sell you that
same phone at a discount for signing a 1 year
service plan. If you sign a 2 year service plan
they will sell you that same phone at more of
a discount.

Using your logic, if you bought the phone at full
retail with no plan you would be lucky if the phone
worked at all...

-Quick


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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-24-2005, 03:06 PM
Hi "John Navas"

> 2. There's nothing wrong with repair by replacement.


There would be if the phone was a present.


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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-24-2005, 04:05 PM
Why would the phone having been received as a present make a difference in
getting a replacement instead of a repair? It's not like there's sentimental
value to a particular phone as there might be to a ring or heirloom.

"Steve Sweet" <steve.sweet@no-spam.btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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> Hi "John Navas"
>
>> 2. There's nothing wrong with repair by replacement.

>
> There would be if the phone was a present.
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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-24-2005, 05:44 PM
Wait for it... wait for it...
It's an ENGRAVED phone with some sentimental
saying commemorating some once in a lifetime
event so it's absolutely priceless and irreplaceable.

(you had to know that was coming)
-Quick

brobin wrote:
> Why would the phone having been received as a present
> make a difference in getting a replacement instead of a
> repair? It's not like there's sentimental value to a
> particular phone as there might be to a ring or heirloom.
>
> "Steve Sweet" <steve.sweet@no-spam.btopenworld.com> wrote
> in message news:d1ul17$lge$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
>> Hi "John Navas"
>>
>>> 2. There's nothing wrong with repair by replacement.

>>
>> There would be if the phone was a present.
>>
>>
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>> (º·.¸(¨*·.¸ ¸.·*¨)¸.·º)
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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-25-2005, 04:48 PM
Quick wrote:
> Wait for it... wait for it...
> It's an ENGRAVED phone with some sentimental
> saying commemorating some once in a lifetime
> event so it's absolutely priceless and irreplaceable.


No offense, but considering the fact that the network is still evolving
and the general life span of most phones is accepted as limited,
engraving a cell phone and presenting that as a gift is, well, a dumb idea.

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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-25-2005, 05:19 PM
Isaiah Beard wrote:
> Quick wrote:
>> Wait for it... wait for it...
>> It's an ENGRAVED phone with some sentimental
>> saying commemorating some once in a lifetime
>> event so it's absolutely priceless and irreplaceable.

>
> No offense, but considering the fact that the network is
> still evolving and the general life span of most phones
> is accepted as limited,
> engraving a cell phone and presenting that as a gift is,
> well, a dumb idea.


Isaiah, ...it was a joke son.
It was in response to a previous post that implied it
was some sort of disaster if they replaced a phone
under warranty.

-Quick


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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-27-2005, 12:26 AM
God - can't anyone of you people answer a simple question - I don't want
Verizon to replace my phone with some POS refurb unit - I want them to
diagnose what is wrong with my phone like they used to do before when
they had the Marconi machine.

Whey the fuck would I pay full pop for a phone with no service plan and
then pay for the service?

None of you have answered the question - why sell a phone under a new
every two plan if they have no way to diagnose or fix a phone other than
to replace it with a crappy refurb?

Quick wrote:

> USENET READER wrote:
>
>>Why do they sell phones under a new every two plan,
>>essentially selling a two-year calling plan, when they
>>know the phones won't last the full time? I mean I know
>>that they are a company trying to make money, but it
>>seems like they are committing fraud if they sell phone
>>under a two year plan and they haev no way to diagnose or
>>fix phones they know won't last two years without
>>problems.

>
>
> Let's see... the newest phone I have is a 2 year old
> 7135. The next is my trusty TM-510 -- must be about
> 4 years old. My oldest is a startac with a led display
> (analog only) -- age unknown... All work just fine and
> all have a lot of miles on them.
>
> You need a phone to use the service.
> You can buy a phone at full retail with NO plan.
> You pick a service plan. They will sell you that
> same phone at a discount for signing a 1 year
> service plan. If you sign a 2 year service plan
> they will sell you that same phone at more of
> a discount.
>
> Using your logic, if you bought the phone at full
> retail with no plan you would be lucky if the phone
> worked at all...
>
> -Quick
>
>

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Re: Is Verizon diagnostic services simply "can you hear me now......good!"
Posted: 03-27-2005, 11:06 PM


USENET READER wrote:

> None of you have answered the question - why sell a phone under a new
> every two plan if they have no way to diagnose or fix a phone other than
> to replace it with a crappy refurb?


You're obviously NOT in the repair business. Other than antennas and
battery problems, you really cant make repairs on most phones. You
really cant make repairs on much of anything these days, especially
anything electronic. They just arent manufactured with repairs in mind,
period. Refurb isnt crappy, just different.

-Pete
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