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Are higher end phones worth it?Posted: 01-07-2005, 07:47 PM soon, and I've been toying with the idea of getting a pretty nice one. I'm currently attracted to Sony Ericssons s710A and P800. Also, I love the Motorola A600, A780, A840 & A1000s. I don't know how much these are running, or where to get them. They're not on any of the provider websites (T-Mobile, Cingular, AT&T). I figure one advantage of getting from them is they can let you pay for it in installments. However, are there places with better deals? As with anything technology, I'm torn. You don't want to buy something that will be obsolete in six months. OTOH, you don't want to splash $600 and then in two months it's selling for $375. I'm looking for good functionality - what's most important to me is a good system of storing contacts, and yes, looks. OH, and on a related note, I know nothing about digital photography, is the quality of pictures taken by cameraphones any good? Responses to "Are higher end phones worth it?"
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Re: Are higher end phones worth it? Posted: 01-08-2005, 03:30 AM My cell phone plan charges 3 cents per kilobyte as their normal datatransfer rate. Does that mean it would cost me $39 to send a 1.3 megapixel picture to someone with my cell phone? -- I have put junk in my email address to evade the spammers. Please take the junk out before replying. Sorry for the inconvenience. Jim "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote in message news:vkHDd.54430$nP1.8590@twister.socal.rr.com... > Some of the camera phones now have 1.3 megapixels which will produce very > good prints up to about 4x6. Many camera phones produce pictures with > lower resolutions that are still fine for emailing. One thing you can be > sure about with cellphones is that whatever you buy today will be obsolete > or offered for almost free within 1 year. > > From:majiin99@cs.com > majiin99@cs.com > >> I haven't had a cellphone in a year and a half. I'll be getting one >> soon, and I've been toying with the idea of getting a pretty nice one. >> >> I'm currently attracted to Sony Ericssons s710A and P800. Also, I love >> the Motorola A600, A780, A840 & A1000s. I don't know how much these >> are running, or where to get them. They're not on any of the provider >> websites (T-Mobile, Cingular, AT&T). I figure one advantage of getting >> from them is they can let you pay for it in installments. However, are >> there places with better deals? >> >> As with anything technology, I'm torn. You don't want to buy something >> that will be obsolete in six months. OTOH, you don't want to splash >> $600 and then in two months it's selling for $375. >> >> I'm looking for good functionality - what's most important to me is a >> good system of storing contacts, and yes, looks. >> >> OH, and on a related note, I know nothing about digital photography, >> is the quality of pictures taken by cameraphones any good? > >
Re: Are higher end phones worth it? Posted: 01-08-2005, 07:07 AM I see where you aee coming from Jim. But:Megapixel definition: "This term refers to the size of an image, usually in reference to a photo from a digital camera or camera phone. Megapixel means one million pixels. The resolution of digital cameras and camera phones is often measured in megapixels. For example, a two-megapixel camera can produce images with two million pixels. Since pixels are usually square and form a grid, a 1-megapixel camera will produce an image roughly 1200 pixels wide by 900 pixels high." The pictures taken with my SE T630 are fine when viewed on the phone screen and when viewed on the PC screen measures about 12cm high by 9.5 cm wide and looks fine, thought not as good as one taken with a traditional camera. They also measure just 19kb approx in size so it would cost you around 54 cents to send, which is much the same as in the UK, generally speaking. My problem with camera phones is one of storage. A classic case in point is last October I was at the Nou Camp in Barcelona and Ronaldinho appeared from the underground carpark in his X5. I ran over (leaving my normal digital camera behind) and grabbed my camera phone. I got one pic through the car windscreen (which was terrible) and then stood right next to him with the camera one foot from his face I got the dreaded "memory full" message! I would be happy to have a phone without a camera. They are semi-useful and may pay dividends if you used it to take a pic of a significant event but apart from attaching pics to contacts (and even that is limited in number with the T630's memory) that is as much as I use mine for. I would place a bet that the majority of picture messaging in the UK are sent in the 9:30pm to 1:30am Friday and Saturday night slots! Jason Jim wrote: > My cell phone plan charges 3 cents per kilobyte as their normal data > transfer rate. Does that mean it would cost me $39 to send a 1.3 megapixel > picture to someone with my cell phone? > > -- > I have put junk in my email address to evade the spammers. > Please take the junk out before replying. > Sorry for the inconvenience. > Jim > > > > "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote in message > news:vkHDd.54430$nP1.8590@twister.socal.rr.com... > > Some of the camera phones now have 1.3 megapixels which will produce very > > good prints up to about 4x6. Many camera phones produce pictures with > > lower resolutions that are still fine for emailing. One thing you can be > > sure about with cellphones is that whatever you buy today will be obsolete > > or offered for almost free within 1 year. > > > > From:majiin99@cs.com > > majiin99@cs.com > > > >> I haven't had a cellphone in a year and a half. I'll be getting one > >> soon, and I've been toying with the idea of getting a pretty nice one. > >> > >> I'm currently attracted to Sony Ericssons s710A and P800. Also, I love > >> the Motorola A600, A780, A840 & A1000s. I don't know how much these > >> are running, or where to get them. They're not on any of the provider > >> websites (T-Mobile, Cingular, AT&T). I figure one advantage of getting > >> from them is they can let you pay for it in installments. However, are > >> there places with better deals? > >> > >> As with anything technology, I'm torn. You don't want to buy something > >> that will be obsolete in six months. OTOH, you don't want to splash > >> $600 and then in two months it's selling for $375. > >> > >> I'm looking for good functionality - what's most important to me is a > >> good system of storing contacts, and yes, looks. > >> > >> OH, and on a related note, I know nothing about digital photography, > >> is the quality of pictures taken by cameraphones any good? > > > >
Re: Are higher end phones worth it? Posted: 01-08-2005, 08:07 AM [Note: US centric advice, due to our multiple technologies and lack of inter carrier phone compatiblity.] A handset is one small but or only interface to a much larger network of switches A/D conversion equipment, fiber and lots and lots of copper wire, connected to towers, central offices, microwave repeaters etc. If our cellular handset interface can't make a connection because the carrier lacks coverage or the call quality is comprimised due to overloaded/lack of tower deployment, no amount of bells and whistles on a tiny box will make much difference.Just look first at the resolution both in technical quality of the network, coverage and human (Customer Service) support, before deciding on which complicated, feature rich little box is going to connect reliably and as promised....Carriers make few promises, so a little free trial testing and current user feedback for a specific geographically bounded (and proprietary) cellular network is always a good place to start...before deciding on a particular phone model. -David
Re: Are higher end phones worth it? Posted: 01-08-2005, 09:31 AM No it would be more like around $7. A 1.3 megapixel jpg picture is onlyabout 250KB. From:Jim kraskajunk@dakotacom.net > My cell phone plan charges 3 cents per kilobyte as their normal data > transfer rate. Does that mean it would cost me $39 to send a 1.3 > megapixel picture to someone with my cell phone? > > -- > I have put junk in my email address to evade the spammers. > Please take the junk out before replying. > Sorry for the inconvenience. > Jim > > > > "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote in message > news:vkHDd.54430$nP1.8590@twister.socal.rr.com... >> Some of the camera phones now have 1.3 megapixels which will produce >> very good prints up to about 4x6. Many camera phones produce >> pictures with lower resolutions that are still fine for emailing. >> One thing you can be sure about with cellphones is that whatever you >> buy today will be obsolete or offered for almost free within 1 year. >> >> From:majiin99@cs.com >> majiin99@cs.com >> >>> I haven't had a cellphone in a year and a half. I'll be getting one >>> soon, and I've been toying with the idea of getting a pretty nice >>> one. I'm currently attracted to Sony Ericssons s710A and P800. Also, >>> I >>> love the Motorola A600, A780, A840 & A1000s. I don't know how much >>> these are running, or where to get them. They're not on any of the >>> provider websites (T-Mobile, Cingular, AT&T). I figure one >>> advantage of getting from them is they can let you pay for it in >>> installments. However, are there places with better deals? >>> >>> As with anything technology, I'm torn. You don't want to buy >>> something that will be obsolete in six months. OTOH, you don't want >>> to splash $600 and then in two months it's selling for $375. >>> >>> I'm looking for good functionality - what's most important to me is >>> a good system of storing contacts, and yes, looks. >>> >>> OH, and on a related note, I know nothing about digital photography, >>> is the quality of pictures taken by cameraphones any good?
Re: Are higher end phones worth it? Posted: 01-08-2005, 10:28 AM [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]In <vkHDd.54430$nP1.8590@twister.socal.rr.com> on Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:12:43 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote: >Some of the camera phones now have 1.3 megapixels which will produce >very good prints up to about 4x6. Not really, since the lens is poor. There's much more to image quality than megapixels. -- Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>
Re: Are higher end phones worth it? Posted: 01-08-2005, 02:23 PM John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > >In <vkHDd.54430$nP1.8590@twister.socal.rr.com> on Sat, 08 Jan 2005 02:12:43 >GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote: > >>Some of the camera phones now have 1.3 megapixels which will produce >>very good prints up to about 4x6. > >Not really, since the lens is poor. There's much more to image quality than >megapixels. Including the lack of picture controls. They can still come in very handy. The wife and I were in an accident on 12/31/04 and it was helpful to be able to take a few pictures. I have a Nokia 6620 and it takes VGA resolution pictures and it did a pretty good job. A digital camera would have been better, but I did not have one available. For a sample see http://members.cox.net/jrusling/acci...s/photo_1.html. -- Jim Rusling Partially Retired Mustang, OK http://www.rusling.org
Re: Are higher end phones worth it? Posted: 01-08-2005, 07:32 PM WOW, that's quite an accident. I hope all are OK.From:Jim Rusling usenet@rusling.org > John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote: > >> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.motorola - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] >> >> In <vkHDd.54430$nP1.8590@twister.socal.rr.com> on Sat, 08 Jan 2005 >> 02:12:43 GMT, "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote: >> >>> Some of the camera phones now have 1.3 megapixels which will produce >>> very good prints up to about 4x6. >> >> Not really, since the lens is poor. There's much more to image >> quality than megapixels. > > Including the lack of picture controls. They can still come in very > handy. The wife and I were in an accident on 12/31/04 and it was > helpful to be able to take a few pictures. I have a Nokia 6620 and it > takes VGA resolution pictures and it did a pretty good job. A digital > camera would have been better, but I did not have one available. For > a sample see > http://members.cox.net/jrusling/acci...s/photo_1.html. > > -- > Jim Rusling > Partially Retired > Mustang, OK > http://www.rusling.org
Re: Are higher end phones worth it? Posted: 01-08-2005, 09:13 PM "BruceR" <brNOSPAM@hawaii.com> wrote:>WOW, that's quite an accident. I hope all are OK. > The wife and I are pretty sore, but nothing serious. We were extremely lucky. -- Jim Rusling Partially Retired Mustang, OK http://www.rusling.org
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