How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i
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Posts: n/a Re: How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, E Jones wrote:> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)? > > Thanks. > > - ESJ Not without re-flashing the phone's firmware.
Posts: n/a Re: How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i Now why would you want to do that?? The answer is no, but I am suspiciousof anyone desiring to do so.. "E Jones" <earl_jonesx@usax.net> wrote in message news:3He7d.165573$787.163147@fe2.columbus.rr.com.. . > Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i (CDMA)? > > Thanks. > > - ESJ > > >
Posts: n/a Re: How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i Joseph wrote:> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <earl_jonesx@usax.net> > wrote: > >> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i >> (CDMA)? > > What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a used > car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that there's > not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what you > are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone! > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours would diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL Lemme see (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how many hours I've logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 months. Whatever! -- -Philip
Posts: n/a Re: How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in messagenews  _q7d.673$UP1.195@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...> Joseph wrote: > > On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <earl_jonesx@usax.net> > > wrote: > > > >> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i > >> (CDMA)? > > > > What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a used > > car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that there's > > not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what you > > are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone! > > > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours would > diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL Lemme see > (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how many hours I've > logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 months. Whatever! > -- > > -Philip No but it would make a phone look more appealing to a buyer on Ebay... -- JennL
Posts: n/a Re: How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i ModernMiko wrote:> "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message > news _q7d.673$UP1.195@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...>> Joseph wrote: >>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <earl_jonesx@usax.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i >>>> (CDMA)? >>> >>> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a >>> used car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that >>> there's >>> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what >>> you are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone! >>> >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> >> >> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours >> would diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL >> Lemme see (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how >> many hours I've logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 >> months. Whatever! -- >> >> -Philip > > No but it would make a phone look more appealing to a buyer on Ebay... Think about the mortality curve. Lots of failures in the first 5% of a device's life and then a sharp decrease. An "experienced" device has survived the most failure prone period of its life expectancy. -- -Philip
Posts: n/a Re: How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i Joseph wrote:> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 05:26:44 GMT, "Philip" > <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote: > >> Joseph wrote: >>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <earl_jonesx@usax.net> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i >>>> (CDMA)? >>> >>> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a >>> used car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that >>> there's >>> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what >>> you are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone! >>> >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >> >> >> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours >> would diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL >> Lemme see (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how >> many hours I've logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 >> months. Whatever! > > > In other words you have no qualms ethically if you had the ability you > would roll back the lifetimer or roll back an odometer on a car, eh? > The "whatever" may be important to someone who doesn't particularly > want a unit that's been used to death. That's what the "whatever" is. > Or perhaps you don't think honesty is important? > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - That may be your inference but such is not reflected in what I posted. Since you wish to make this into a discussion of ethics, it is an academic falsehood to reset the lifetime timer to zero. Now ... with an electronic component, does that matter in any tangible sense? There are no moving parts and keyboards are very cheap. So it must be some kind of false sense of security that a 'zero' lifetime number brings. My 9155 phone works no differently now than when it was new. What percentage of life expectancy is 239 hrs? You have no idea. -- -Philip
Posts: n/a Re: How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in messagenews:_RJ7d.1297$UP1.272@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net... > ModernMiko wrote: > > "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news _q7d.673$UP1.195@newsread1.news.pas.earthlin k.net...> >> Joseph wrote: > >>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <earl_jonesx@usax.net> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i > >>>> (CDMA)? > >>> > >>> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a > >>> used car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that > >>> there's > >>> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what > >>> you are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone! > >>> > >>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > >> > >> > >> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours > >> would diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL > >> Lemme see (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how > >> many hours I've logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 > >> months. Whatever! -- > >> > >> -Philip > > > > No but it would make a phone look more appealing to a buyer on Ebay... > > > Think about the mortality curve. Lots of failures in the first 5% of a > device's life and then a sharp decrease. An "experienced" device has > survived the most failure prone period of its life expectancy. > -- > > -Philip > I'd still like to make the decision whether I wanted to buy a heavily used phone or an almost new phone and that's taken away from me if someone lies by resetting the timer... -- JennL
Posts: n/a Re: How to Clear Lifetime Timer on V60i We cannot assume one's motive for the request, but if it does NOT matter "inany tangible sense", why would one want to do it in the first place? The only reason I can think of would be to mis-lead the intended recipient. Gregg Hill "Philip" <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:%RJ7d.1298$UP1.225@newsread1.news.pas.earthli nk.net... > Joseph wrote: >> On Sat, 02 Oct 2004 05:26:44 GMT, "Philip" >> <1chip-state1@earthlink.net> wrote: >> >>> Joseph wrote: >>>> On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 15:26:55 GMT, "E Jones" <earl_jonesx@usax.net> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there any way to clear the lifetime timer on a Motorola V60i >>>>> (CDMA)? >>>> >>>> What you're wanting to do could be compared to someone selling a >>>> used car and rolling back the odometer to give the allusion that >>>> there's >>>> not as much wear and tear on the vehicle. That appears to be what >>>> you are doing when you wish to clear the lifetimer on a phone! >>>> >>>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - >>> >>> >>> AS if ... it mattered. Is there a suggestion that lifetime hours >>> would diminish your "new every two" credit toward a new phone? LOL >>> Lemme see (looks for the lifetime number in his Audiovox 9155) how >>> many hours I've logged. Hmmm ... the phone reports 239 hours in 22 >>> months. Whatever! >> >> >> In other words you have no qualms ethically if you had the ability you >> would roll back the lifetimer or roll back an odometer on a car, eh? >> The "whatever" may be important to someone who doesn't particularly >> want a unit that's been used to death. That's what the "whatever" is. >> Or perhaps you don't think honesty is important? >> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > That may be your inference but such is not reflected in what I posted. > Since you wish to make this into a discussion of ethics, it is an academic > falsehood to reset the lifetime timer to zero. Now ... with an electronic > component, does that matter in any tangible sense? There are no moving > parts and keyboards are very cheap. So it must be some kind of false > sense > of security that a 'zero' lifetime number brings. My 9155 phone works no > differently now than when it was new. What percentage of life expectancy > is > 239 hrs? You have no idea. > > -- > > -Philip > > > > > >
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