"David L" <davidlind@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> "Roopinder Randhawa" <roopmail@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:<Z15Bb.375414$pT1.134299@twister.nyc.rr.com>. ..
> > Is there really a (substantial) difference between the voice quality of
"1x"
> > phone to the voice quality of older CDMA phone.
> >
> >
> >
> > Is it better or worse? Also if worse is there a tweak to force it into a
> > different voice codec?
>
> I have yet to discover anyway to tell if 1x is even being used for
> voice. I know it can be, but my Verizon sources have told me it's only
> being used for data here in SF California. Some of the phones come out
> of the box detecting the 1x network and displaying 1x and some don't,
> but that sure doesn't mean it's used. Kind of like the unsupported GPS
> feature. It's displayed but not supported with the E911 base equipment
> yet, at least around here.
>

I was told, but am unsure if I can believe, that the entire VZW network
has been converted to 1x and that if your phone has 1x, it will take
advantage of it. It is supposed to double network voice capability as well
as provide faster data. I do know I wasn't able to get a picture out from a
location that wasn't showing as roaming or extended network using 1x and had
to use qnc instead. That would imply that all of VZW is not yet 1x in my
area.

I also use Alltel in Tampa, FL area and most of their stuff is 1x and
they say the handsets are using it. Again, the issue is that it adds
capacity, so there is a motivation for the carriers to implement it. In most
cases, they can change some equipment at the tower and they are good to go.
The new stuff is backward compatible and it saves the costs of new towers,
transmitters and fights with neighborhood associations.

One issue I have not been able to get resolved is whether 1x data has
any roam capability. No one can provide an answer at either Alltel or VZW.
My suspicion is that there isn't.


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Thomas M. Goethe

On 12 Dec 2003 03:21:18 -0800, davidlind@my-deja.com (David L) wrote:

>So unless someone has a Verizon 1X voice map, a news article about 1x
>voice deployment on Verizon or a debug menu to check during a voice
>call, I'm not yet convinced it's being used widely, except for fast
>data connections and to light up that 1x icon on the some handset
>displays.

In the field test screens, buried within the Menu 0 - code 000000
section of my LG VX4400 (then menu option 2 - 1), it always shows this
on a 1X network:

P_REV_IN_USE 6

It's my understanding that "6" means the 1X network is being used.

Mike

Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Thomas M. Goethe said:

; The T720, if it was a CDMA version, is 1x, but, obviously, only if 1x
; service is available.

Yes, it was CDMA, on Verizon. But, as I said, I saw no reference to 1x
anywhere in the docs, or in the display. By the same token, I see no
reference to 1x in the docs for my Kyo 7135, which prompted me to ask
what the "1X" in the display (where the docs say a "D" should be)
meant. It can be assumed that if I had seen it before, I'd have known
by then. The T720 was my previous phone, which was an alleged upgrade
from a CDMA StarTac 7868.

; Would love to try the 7135. If I still used Palm OS, I am pretty sure I
; would want one.

I showed it to a buddy of mine last week. He wants one. But
unfortunately for him, he works for Nokia.

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"Jeffrey Kaplan" <acv@gordol.org> wrote in message
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> Yes, it was CDMA, on Verizon. But, as I said, I saw no reference to 1x
> anywhere in the docs, or in the display. By the same token, I see no
> reference to 1x in the docs for my Kyo 7135, which prompted me to ask
> what the "1X" in the display (where the docs say a "D" should be)
> meant. It can be assumed that if I had seen it before, I'd have known
> by then. The T720 was my previous phone, which was an alleged upgrade
> from a CDMA StarTac 7868.

Actually, my wife is finding better service with the Alltel T720 than
with her StarTac. She drives through an area that is really bad during drive
time and has far less trouble getting a line which I suspect has to do with
the extra capacity of 1x.

But yes, there were a lot of horrendous issues with the T720 on VZW,
especially the early ones.



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