On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:34:57 -0700, TLS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

>If I have an unlocked TMobile Motorola RAZR V3, can I switch to Cingular
>and use the same phone with no problem?

Yes... as noted elsewhere, you need to manually configure it for
specific Cingular features.

Over here in SoCal, T-Mobile uses the Cingular network and a fully
unlocked and unbranded phone displays CINGULAR and ROAMING in place of
T-Mobile. However, it is NOT roaming ;-)

I fully unlocked and unbranded my RAZR V3 and manually configured it.
Once done, it worked as good as any RAZR V3 can ;-)

This phone is now with my daughter as I bought myself a new toy...
T-Mobile's MDA (great price via CompUSA). The MDA is really a computer
with phone capabilities (the SDA is a phone with computer
capabilities). Works great though.

______________________

The Traveler
Oceanside, California

DogFart <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in
news:bp7u32dsqdfat8l75er0ua3bm34uu0l2au@4ax.com:

> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:34:57 -0700, TLS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> use the same phone with no problem?
>
> That would depend on Cingular porting the number.

What does "Cingular porting the number" mean? I thought the number was
contained on the Sim card?

I'm an old Cingular Blue (ATTWS) customer and I'd like to swap my original
ATTWS Sim card into a new Razor and continue my service plan. Any problem
with that working?

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In <Xns97A9F3F6562EDjb1234nospam@65.32.5.122> on Wed, 19 Apr 2006 03:59:09
GMT, Ben Anderson <Ben@dontwantnospam.com> wrote:

>DogFart <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote in
>news:bp7u32dsqdfat8l75er0ua3bm34uu0l2au@4ax.com :
>
>> On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 22:34:57 -0700, TLS <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>> use the same phone with no problem?
>>
>> That would depend on Cingular porting the number.

Not true.

>What does "Cingular porting the number" mean? I thought the number was
>contained on the Sim card?

It is.

>I'm an old Cingular Blue (ATTWS) customer and I'd like to swap my original
>ATTWS Sim card into a new Razor and continue my service plan. Any problem
>with that working?

No (as explained more fully in my earlier response).

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John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:43:20 GMT, John Navas
<spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

>>> That would depend on Cingular porting the number.
>
>Not true.

Well maybe the original query was not clear to me?

The writer will be using a new SIM card?

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In <21jr4251p1h8tnk699fansqfs8ul96hoal@4ax.com> on Tue, 25 Apr 2006 21:52:01
+1000, DogFart <flatulantdingo@deadspam.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 19 Apr 2006 05:43:20 GMT, John Navas
><spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>
>>>> That would depend on Cingular porting the number.
>>
>>Not true.
>
>Well maybe the original query was not clear to me?
>
>The writer will be using a new SIM card?

A T-Mobile SIM won't work on Cingular. Thus a new SIM is needed on Cingular.
A Cingular SIM will work with either a new number or a ported number. The OP
was only asking if it would work on Cingular, which it will, whether the old
T-Mobile number is ported to Cingular or not.

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Best regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT
John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>

Ben Anderson <Ben@dontwantnospam.com> wrote in
news:Xns97A9F3F6562EDjb1234nospam@65.32.5.122:

> I'm an old Cingular Blue (ATTWS) customer and I'd like to swap my
> original ATTWS Sim card into a new Razor and continue my service plan.
> Any problem with that working?

I'll answer my own question here for follow-up searches.

I bought a new, unlocked, RAZR V3i and put my ATTWS (Cingular Blue) Sim
card in it and it works fine. The first time I turned it on with the Blue
Sim card, it took a few extra seconds to find the nCingular network. After
that, it's worked fine.

The only thing I haven't been able to figure out is how to get the new RAZR
V3i to read the phonebook entries my Nokia 6200 saved to my Sim card.

The RAZR reads text messages that were saved to the Sim card on the Nokiz
6200, but not the phonebook. Anyone got an idea?

You'll need a program like DataPilot. With it, you can read the SIM from
your old phone, adjust the entry format, then put the SIM in the new
phone and upload it. Your local Cingular office might be able to do it
for you. Just tell them to use the same format for the the v3i that they
use for the v3.


> Ben Anderson <Ben@dontwantnospam.com> wrote in
> news:Xns97A9F3F6562EDjb1234nospam@65.32.5.122:
>
>> I'm an old Cingular Blue (ATTWS) customer and I'd like to swap my
>> original ATTWS Sim card into a new Razor and continue my service
>> plan. Any problem with that working?
>
> I'll answer my own question here for follow-up searches.
>
> I bought a new, unlocked, RAZR V3i and put my ATTWS (Cingular Blue)
> Sim card in it and it works fine. The first time I turned it on with
> the Blue Sim card, it took a few extra seconds to find the nCingular
> network. After that, it's worked fine.
>
> The only thing I haven't been able to figure out is how to get the
> new RAZR V3i to read the phonebook entries my Nokia 6200 saved to my
> Sim card.
>
> The RAZR reads text messages that were saved to the Sim card on the
> Nokiz 6200, but not the phonebook. Anyone got an idea?

"BruceR" <br@NOhawaiiSPAM.com> wrote in
news:6t94g.203$yM.42@tornado.socal.rr.com:

> You'll need a program like DataPilot. With it, you can read the SIM
> from your old phone, adjust the entry format, then put the SIM in the
> new phone and upload it.

Thanks, I hadn't heard of DataPilot. I bought a copy of Motorola's
Phone Tools v4 with my new phone. It didn't come with a manual, maybe
it's on the CD.

Is the problem that my new RAZR doesn't understand the phonebook format
left on the Sim card by my Nokia? I thought there might be a standard
GSM Sim card phonebook format that every GSM phone could read. Odd that
it did read the text messages that I received on my Nokia.

> Your local Cingular office might be able to do it
> for you. Just tell them to use the same format for the the v3i that
> they use for the v3.

Since I am an old ATTWS (Cingular Blue) customer, I am trying to avoid
the Cingular folks... they always push towards a Cingular Orange
upgrade... which I might do if I find out that I'll get better
coverage... but I like doing things myself.

Thanks for the help.

Ben Anderson wrote:
> Is the problem that my new RAZR doesn't understand the phonebook format
> left on the Sim card by my Nokia? I thought there might be a standard
> GSM Sim card phonebook format that every GSM phone could read. Odd that
> it did read the text messages that I received on my Nokia.

Motorola is crap, that's why it isn't compatible with your Nokia. They
might look good but the user interface is a pig to operate and not the
least bit user friendly.


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Simon Templar <usenet@vk3xem.net> wrote in
news:44523817$1@quokka.wn.com.au:

> Motorola is crap, that's why it isn't compatible with your Nokia.
> They might look good but the user interface is a pig to operate and
> not the least bit user friendly.

Don't hold back... Tell me what you really think! Hahahaha...

I've had a succession of Nokia phones from the beginning. I've always like
them and had good luck with them... I bought a RAZR V3i because I wanted
bluetooth and liked the sexy look of the phone.