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"Cingular Launches 3G Network"

Posted: 12-07-2005, 05:24 PM
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<http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=1390>

Cingular Launches 3G Network
BroadbandConnect Service Offers Ultra-Fast Connections

ATLANTA - DECEMBER 6 - Cingular Wireless today launched its
super-charged wireless network capable of providing customers with
high-speed access to information in a world that has gone mobile.
Customers can use the third-generation (3G) network to access
Cingular BroadbandConnect, which is available to nearly 35 million
people in 52 communities throughout the United States. The company
will continue to extend the network rapidly next year.
...
Cingular’s 3G network is the first widely available service in the
world to use HSDPA (High Speed Downlink Packet Access) technology.
HSDPA is the high-speed evolution of GSM/EDGE (Global System for
Mobile Communication/Enhanced Data Rates for Global Evolution), which
shares a common core network.GSM is the world’s most popular wireless
technology, which is used by more than one billion people in 210
countries.

Cingular will initially launch the BroadbandConnect service in Austin
(TX.), Baltimore, Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Houston, Las Vegas,
Phoenix, Portland (OR.), Salt Lake City, San Diego, San Francisco,
San Jose (CA.), Seattle, Tacoma (Wash.) and Washington D.C.
...
Cingular BroadbandConnect is a super-charged enhancement to the
company’s nationwide EDGE network, the nation’s largest wireless
high-speed data network. When coupled with a compatible device and
service plan, the service provides average mobile data connections
between 400-700Kbps (kilobits per second) on the downlink and bursts
to more than a megabit per second.

BroadbandConnect combines a laptop modem card, Cingular’s
Communication Manager software and a Data Connect plan for use on
laptops. Customers can use their laptops to access the Internet or
e-mail, download large files and attachments, and run corporate
business applications at broadband speeds in areas covered by
BroadbandConnect. The service also offers additional security features
compared to alternative wireless technologies. Additional devices and
exclusive services that take advantage of the high-speed HSDPA
network, such as transmitting full motion video and providing
ultra-fast audio, will be available in 2006.

Unlike services offered by some wireless companies, BroadbandConnect
does not drop a session when the user is outside the coverage
area. Cingular said the laptop modem cards are dual-band HSDPA/UMTS
(Universal Mobile Telephone System) (850/1900Mhz) and backward
compatible with EDGE (Enhanced Data Rates for Global Evolution) and
GPRS (General Packet Radio Service) in four bands
(850/900/1800/1900Mhz), so the session is seamlessly transferred to
the company’s nationwide EDGE network or a data network of one of its
roaming partners.

The Cingular EDGE network is available in more than 13,000 cities and
towns and in areas along 40,000 miles of highways, providing average
data speeds between 70-135Kbps. Cingular customers can also access
data services in more than 90 countries.

Customers can purchase either a Sierra Wireless AC860 or Novatel U730
laptop modem card for $99.99, after rebate, when they sign up for a
qualifying voice plan and introductory two-year $59.99 Unlimited Data
Connect plan. A variety of monthly data plans are available starting
at $19.99 for 5 MB.

An updated version of Cingular Communication Manager is included with
the laptop modem cards. The software gives customers the flexibility
to connect to BroadbandConnect, EDGE, GPRS or public and private
Wi-Fi hotspots.

[MORE]

BroadbandConnect coverage maps:
<http://www.cingular.com/business/3G_cov_maps_pop>

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Re: "Cingular Launches 3G Network"
Posted: 12-07-2005, 07:28 PM
John Navas wrote:

> Cingular said the laptop modem cards are dual-band
> HSDPA/UMTS (Universal Mobile Telephone System)
> (850/1900Mhz) and backward compatible with EDGE
> (Enhanced Data Rates for Global Evolution) and GPRS
> (General Packet Radio Service) in four bands
> (850/900/1800/1900Mhz), so the session is seamlessly
> transferred to the company’s nationwide EDGE network or a
> data network of one of its roaming partners.

Dual band UMTS 3G, using 850 MHz for better propagation, seems
to be a truly international frequency standard this time.
Australia will be upgrading its UMTS to dual band shortly,
using these same frequencies, and with a proposal to phase out
its existing Telstra CDMA network.

John
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Re: "Cingular Launches 3G Network"
Posted: 12-07-2005, 07:36 PM
John Henderson wrote:
> John Navas wrote:
>
>> Cingular said the laptop modem cards are dual-band
>> HSDPA/UMTS (Universal Mobile Telephone System)
>> (850/1900Mhz) and backward compatible with EDGE
>> (Enhanced Data Rates for Global Evolution) and GPRS
>> (General Packet Radio Service) in four bands
>> (850/900/1800/1900Mhz), so the session is seamlessly
>> transferred to the company’s nationwide EDGE network or a
>> data network of one of its roaming partners.
>
> Dual band UMTS 3G, using 850 MHz for better propagation, seems
> to be a truly international frequency standard this time.
> Australia will be upgrading its UMTS to dual band shortly,
> using these same frequencies, and with a proposal to phase out

Hmm, that means installing a lot more cell sites out in the bush to
provide the same geographic coverage. I always thought that the
justification for Telstra getting all that government aid for their CDMA
network was that they provided coverage to areas that would otherwise
have only analog coverage.
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Re: "Cingular Launches 3G Network"
Posted: 12-07-2005, 07:51 PM
SMS wrote:

> Hmm, that means installing a lot more cell sites out in the
> bush to provide the same geographic coverage. I always thought
> that the justification for Telstra getting all that government
> aid for their CDMA network was that they provided coverage to
> areas that would otherwise have only analog coverage.

Because UMTS uses CDMA instead of the TDMA of earlier GSM,
there's no distance limit imposed by timing advance. And at
850 MHz, signal propagation and penetration should be on a par
with the existing CDMA networks.

So in sparsely populated areas, Telstra's claiming that existing
CDMA cells can be replaced by 850 MHz UMTS cells on a
one-for-one basis. And if 3G usage is heavier, swamping weaker
signals, installing those extra cells should prove profitable.

John
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Re: "Cingular Launches 3G Network"
Posted: 12-07-2005, 08:06 PM
John Henderson wrote:
> SMS wrote:
>
>> Hmm, that means installing a lot more cell sites out in the
>> bush to provide the same geographic coverage. I always thought
>> that the justification for Telstra getting all that government
>> aid for their CDMA network was that they provided coverage to
>> areas that would otherwise have only analog coverage.
>
> Because UMTS uses CDMA instead of the TDMA of earlier GSM,
> there's no distance limit imposed by timing advance. And at
> 850 MHz, signal propagation and penetration should be on a par
> with the existing CDMA networks.
>
> So in sparsely populated areas, Telstra's claiming that existing
> CDMA cells can be replaced by 850 MHz UMTS cells on a
> one-for-one basis. And if 3G usage is heavier, swamping weaker
> signals, installing those extra cells should prove profitable.

Ah, I thought they were doing GSM instead of CDMA. Yes, it seems like a
good plan as long as it's UMTS.
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Re: "Cingular Launches 3G Network"
Posted: 12-07-2005, 08:12 PM
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In <439739d9$0$38647$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> on Wed, 07 Dec 2005 11:36:58
-0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>John Henderson wrote:
>> John Navas wrote:
>>
>>> Cingular said the laptop modem cards are dual-band
>>> HSDPA/UMTS (Universal Mobile Telephone System)
>>> (850/1900Mhz) and backward compatible with EDGE
>>> (Enhanced Data Rates for Global Evolution) and GPRS
>>> (General Packet Radio Service) in four bands
>>> (850/900/1800/1900Mhz), so the session is seamlessly
>>> transferred to the company’s nationwide EDGE network or a
>>> data network of one of its roaming partners.
>>
>> Dual band UMTS 3G, using 850 MHz for better propagation, seems
>> to be a truly international frequency standard this time.
>> Australia will be upgrading its UMTS to dual band shortly,
>> using these same frequencies, and with a proposal to phase out
>
>Hmm, that means installing a lot more cell sites out in the bush to
>provide the same geographic coverage. I always thought that the
>justification for Telstra getting all that government aid for their CDMA
>network was that they provided coverage to areas that would otherwise
>have only analog coverage.

You're probably thinking GSM range (although it is capable of extended range).
This is UMTS/HSDPA.

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Posted: 12-07-2005, 08:22 PM
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In <439740d9$0$38659$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> on Wed, 07 Dec 2005 12:06:50
-0800, SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

>John Henderson wrote:
>> SMS wrote:
>>
>>> Hmm, that means installing a lot more cell sites out in the
>>> bush to provide the same geographic coverage. I always thought
>>> that the justification for Telstra getting all that government
>>> aid for their CDMA network was that they provided coverage to
>>> areas that would otherwise have only analog coverage.
>>
>> Because UMTS uses CDMA instead of the TDMA of earlier GSM,
>> there's no distance limit imposed by timing advance. And at
>> 850 MHz, signal propagation and penetration should be on a par
>> with the existing CDMA networks.
>>
>> So in sparsely populated areas, Telstra's claiming that existing
>> CDMA cells can be replaced by 850 MHz UMTS cells on a
>> one-for-one basis. And if 3G usage is heavier, swamping weaker
>> signals, installing those extra cells should prove profitable.
>
>Ah, I thought they were doing GSM instead of CDMA. Yes, it seems like a
>good plan as long as it's UMTS.

Not even a good scramble. As usual, you had no idea what you were talking
about.

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Re: "Cingular Launches 3G Network"
Posted: 12-07-2005, 10:51 PM
John Navas wrote:

> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>
>>Ah, I thought they were doing GSM instead of CDMA. Yes, it
>>seems like a good plan as long as it's UMTS.
>
> Not even a good scramble. As usual, you had no idea what you
> were talking about.

I'm with Steven ("SMS") on this one.

John
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Re: "Cingular Launches 3G Network"
Posted: 12-08-2005, 03:18 AM
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In <3vp7b9F176qf1U1@individual.net> on Thu, 08 Dec 2005 09:51:21 +1100, John
Henderson <jhenRemoveThis@talk21.com> wrote:

>John Navas wrote:
>
>> SMS <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Ah, I thought they were doing GSM instead of CDMA. Yes, it
>>>seems like a good plan as long as it's UMTS.
>>
>> Not even a good scramble. As usual, you had no idea what you
>> were talking about.
>
>I'm with Steven ("SMS") on this one.

A lot more cell sites? CDMA, not WCDMA (which is quite different)? Really?
(UMTS is not CDMA -- it's WCDMA.)

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Re: "Cingular Launches 3G Network"
Posted: 12-08-2005, 06:00 AM
John Navas wrote:

> A lot more cell sites? CDMA, not WCDMA (which is quite
> different)? Really? (UMTS is not CDMA -- it's WCDMA.)

I doubt that we're disagreeing on anything of substance. I took
it that Steven's bit about lots more cell sites was based on
his assumption that Telstra was replacing existing CDMA with
GSM. I hadn't made it all that clear that UMTS was to be the
replacement, so any misunderstanding was natural. He certainly
didn't deserve harsh treatment for that. If you have other
issues with Steven, I'm not a party to them.

Different or not, WCDMA is Wideband CDMA. UMTS uses
code-division, so it's CDMA. To say otherwise is like saying
that a catfish isn't a fish because it's a catfish.

Personally, I'd rather focus on the good news. It seems certain
that dual-band UMTS phones will soon be readily available, and
will work anywhere in the world where UMTS is deployed. That
has major ramifications for handset availability, choice and
price.

John
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