GSM noise in speakers even when phone is not receiving SMS or changes transmitter

Posted: 02-04-2005, 11:22 AM
As most GSM users know, you can tell that a GSM phone is sometimes
transmitting data, if it lies next to a speaker or headphone. For
example when the phone receives an SMS, or when you travel and the
phone changes to a different transmitter station.

My question is: Why is it that GSM phones sometimes transmit data,
even when the phone does not receive an SMS or changes the transmitter
phone?

If this happens for no apparent reason, could it be interpreted as a
clear sign that the phone is being "homed" or positioned, for example
by the police?

Or are some carrier networks simply programmed to, on a regular basis,
check up with the phone if it's still turned on?
(If it's relevant, my carrier network is Vodafone of Sweden. (If you
wonder wny I don't ask them directly, well it's because their customer
support department never respond to the email that I send them, for
some funny reason))

Please email me a copy of any replies. Thank you!
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Simon VK3XEM
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Re: GSM noise in speakers even when phone is not receiving SMS orchanges transmitter
Posted: 02-04-2005, 11:36 AM
Makterna wrote:
> As most GSM users know, you can tell that a GSM phone is sometimes
> transmitting data, if it lies next to a speaker or headphone. For
> example when the phone receives an SMS, or when you travel and the
> phone changes to a different transmitter station.
>
> My question is: Why is it that GSM phones sometimes transmit data,
> even when the phone does not receive an SMS or changes the transmitter
> phone?
>
> If this happens for no apparent reason, could it be interpreted as a
> clear sign that the phone is being "homed" or positioned, for example
> by the police?
>
> Or are some carrier networks simply programmed to, on a regular basis,
> check up with the phone if it's still turned on?
> (If it's relevant, my carrier network is Vodafone of Sweden. (If you
> wonder wny I don't ask them directly, well it's because their customer
> support department never respond to the email that I send them, for
> some funny reason))
>
> Please email me a copy of any replies. Thank you!


I'm sure you will get more technical replies than mine, but basically my
understanding is that the phone checks in with the network every so
often just to keep it up to date of it's location. I wouldn't worry
about it too much.


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Re: GSM noise in speakers even when phone is not receiving SMS or changes transmitter
Posted: 02-05-2005, 12:40 AM
On 4 Feb 2005 03:22:42 -0800, makterna@hotpop.com (Makterna) wrote:

>As most GSM users know, you can tell that a GSM phone is sometimes
>transmitting data, if it lies next to a speaker or headphone. For
>example when the phone receives an SMS, or when you travel and the
>phone changes to a different transmitter station.
>
>My question is: Why is it that GSM phones sometimes transmit data,
>even when the phone does not receive an SMS or changes the transmitter
>phone?
>

Operators of GSM networks 'poll' phones at some interval. I have seen
it as often as every 4 hours or so, or as rarely as once a day. The
poll verifies that the phone is still on he network, and on. If there
is no response, than if roaming, the original service provider is
notified that the phone is no longer roaming. Frequent pollling does
does ugly things to standby time. It also saves time when sending SMS
or calls to the phone to know roughly where it is.



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Vlad Andreyev
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Re: GSM noise in speakers even when phone is not receiving SMS or changes transmitter
Posted: 02-05-2005, 03:37 PM
My T-Mobile USA phone "checks in" precisely every 30 minutes.

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On 4 Feb 2005 03:22:42 -0800, makterna@hotpop.com (Makterna) wrote:

Operators of GSM networks 'poll' phones at some interval. I have seen it as
often as every 4 hours or so, or as rarely as once a day.


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Re: GSM noise in speakers even when phone is not receiving SMS or changes transmitter
Posted: 02-17-2005, 08:33 AM

That is correct...about every 5-10 mins your phone will connect to th
network to update the IRDB (the software in the phone)...this is wha
cingular calls it...if the IRDB fails to update then sometimes you
calls will not sound right and the internet may not work correctly whe
we update the network....If you are having a problem..If you hav
cingular..you would want to call cust care and inform them that yo
were told to have a new OPL push or Single Push sent to you
phone.....after thay send it to you you would want to do a hard shoc
to your phone which means to take out the battery while the phone i
still on..***a hard shock will fix almost all problems on a GS
phone***PLEASE DO NOT TRY ON A GAIT PHONE!!!!!!....If you have any mor
questions email me...You might tell that I work for customer care fo
cingular. LOL

tomcat592@sbcglobal.net
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