"WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-10-2004, 06:51 PM

John Navas

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<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/10/wimax_steal_market_share/>

WiMAX and other new high-speed wireless technologies are likely to
take market share from 3G as well as DSL. In a white paper research
firm TelecomView says that WiMax will supplement and in some cases
replace 3G, DSL and other wireline technologies to provide broadband
services.

WiMAX offers high-speed wireless data connections over a range of
around 30 miles. The technology features both increased range and
download speeds compared to WiFi (802.11x), which is intended to
provide coverage over small areas. Along with WiFi, other
fixed-wireless broadband systems currently exist, including hardware
that can deliver services over several miles. But many of these also
require "line of sight" between a transmitter and receiver to
function - WiMAX does not.

TelecomView estimates that WiMAX will capture more than 40 per cent
of the wireless broadband market, leaving 3G with less than 60 per
cent in 2009. In addition to stealing market share from 3G, the
report suggests that WiMax will also be a threat to fixed-line
high-speed broadband services.

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EventHelix.com

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-11-2004, 04:26 AM

How will WiMAX achieve these high rates without a line of sight
requirement?

How is user mobility handled in this standard?

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John Navas

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-13-2004, 06:22 PM

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In <1102739190.926338.178850@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups .com> on 10 Dec 2004
20:26:30 -0800, "EventHelix.com" <eventhelix@gmail.com> wrote:

>How will WiMAX achieve these high rates without a line of sight
>requirement?
>
>How is user mobility handled in this standard?

"Google is your friend!"
<http://www.google.com/search?q=WiMAX>

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Eric Rosenberry

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-14-2004, 08:10 AM

I don't get the whole hype behind WiMAX.

Well great, it is based on some new signaling technique that is really
nifty... Now who is going to deploy it? What organizations have the assets
and experience for such an undertaking?

It is obvious to me that the companies that are best able to deploy WiMAX
are going to be the ones that already have towers, RF engineers, and
wireless experience... I think that if WiMAX ever comes to pass it will be
just another technology that cell phone providers leverage (like 1xRTT or
EVDO or GPRS or EDGE).

Thoughts?

-Eric

"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
news:remud.10698$_3.123471@typhoon.sonic.net...
> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/10/wimax_steal_market_share/>
>
> WiMAX and other new high-speed wireless technologies are likely to
> take market share from 3G as well as DSL. In a white paper research
> firm TelecomView says that WiMax will supplement and in some cases
> replace 3G, DSL and other wireline technologies to provide broadband
> services.
>
> WiMAX offers high-speed wireless data connections over a range of
> around 30 miles. The technology features both increased range and
> download speeds compared to WiFi (802.11x), which is intended to
> provide coverage over small areas. Along with WiFi, other
> fixed-wireless broadband systems currently exist, including hardware
> that can deliver services over several miles. But many of these also
> require "line of sight" between a transmitter and receiver to
> function - WiMAX does not.
>
> TelecomView estimates that WiMAX will capture more than 40 per cent
> of the wireless broadband market, leaving 3G with less than 60 per
> cent in 2009. In addition to stealing market share from 3G, the
> report suggests that WiMax will also be a threat to fixed-line
> high-speed broadband services.
>
> [MORE]
>
> --
> Best regards,
> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
> CABLE MODEM/DSL GUIDE: <http://Cable-DSL.home.att.net/>

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John Navas

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-14-2004, 08:50 AM

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In <4KKdnSZVrMgHAiPcRVn-qA@comcast.com> on Tue, 14 Dec 2004 00:10:46 -0800,
"Eric Rosenberry" <erics@R3MOVErosenberry.org> wrote:

>I don't get the whole hype behind WiMAX.

Breaks the copper/coax duopoly.

>Well great, it is based on some new signaling technique that is really
>nifty... Now who is going to deploy it? What organizations have the assets
>and experience for such an undertaking?

AOL. Independent ISPs.

>It is obvious to me that the companies that are best able to deploy WiMAX
>are going to be the ones that already have towers, RF engineers, and
>wireless experience... I think that if WiMAX ever comes to pass it will be
>just another technology that cell phone providers leverage (like 1xRTT or
>EVDO or GPRS or EDGE).
>
>Thoughts?

Think ISP, not cellular.

>"John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message
>news:remud.10698$_3.123471@typhoon.sonic.net...
>> <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/10/wimax_steal_market_share/>
>>
>> WiMAX and other new high-speed wireless technologies are likely to
>> take market share from 3G as well as DSL. In a white paper research
>> firm TelecomView says that WiMax will supplement and in some cases
>> replace 3G, DSL and other wireline technologies to provide broadband
>> services.
>>
>> WiMAX offers high-speed wireless data connections over a range of
>> around 30 miles. The technology features both increased range and
>> download speeds compared to WiFi (802.11x), which is intended to
>> provide coverage over small areas. Along with WiFi, other
>> fixed-wireless broadband systems currently exist, including hardware
>> that can deliver services over several miles. But many of these also
>> require "line of sight" between a transmitter and receiver to
>> function - WiMAX does not.
>>
>> TelecomView estimates that WiMAX will capture more than 40 per cent
>> of the wireless broadband market, leaving 3G with less than 60 per
>> cent in 2009. In addition to stealing market share from 3G, the
>> report suggests that WiMax will also be a threat to fixed-line
>> high-speed broadband services.
>>
>> [MORE]
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/>
>> CABLE MODEM/DSL GUIDE: <http://Cable-DSL.home.att.net/>
>

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Peter Pan

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-14-2004, 11:47 AM

Hate to tell you oh negative one, but WiMax is LIVE/In Use/Available in the
area I live and work in *NOW* *TODAY* *THIS SECOND* *A LOCAL CALL to START
AN ACCOUNT and use it minutes later*. Went live a few weeks ago in the
Spokane Washingtoin Area (in town and about 20 miles outside of it). Doesn't
use cell stuff at all. How do I know? I work for a computer and cell phone
sales/repair place in Rathdrum Idaho (about 14 miles NW of Spokane).

Unfortunately we sell it, so I can't say who we are or some idiot will
accuse me of spamming for finacial gain....

But if you are curios, check out the WiMax org at http://www.wimaxforum.org

Eric Rosenberry wrote:
> I don't get the whole hype behind WiMAX.
>
> Well great, it is based on some new signaling technique that is really
> nifty... Now who is going to deploy it? What organizations have the
> assets and experience for such an undertaking?
>
> It is obvious to me that the companies that are best able to deploy
> WiMAX are going to be the ones that already have towers, RF
> engineers, and wireless experience... I think that if WiMAX ever
> comes to pass it will be just another technology that cell phone
> providers leverage (like 1xRTT or EVDO or GPRS or EDGE).
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Eric
>

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Trey

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-14-2004, 03:47 PM

Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote:
> In alt.cellular.sprintpcs John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> [MORE]
>>
>
> One thing not listed and one thing that will limit its expansion is
> the high latency. Online gaming or interactive sessions could be
> quite painful.

Do you have any ping times to show this? Just how bad is the Latency? Im
sure this would be a temporary issue... I smell VoIP phones!

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Trey

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-14-2004, 03:51 PM

Eric Rosenberry wrote:
> I don't get the whole hype behind WiMAX.
>
> Well great, it is based on some new signaling technique that is really
> nifty... Now who is going to deploy it? What organizations have the
> assets and experience for such an undertaking?
>
> It is obvious to me that the companies that are best able to deploy
> WiMAX are going to be the ones that already have towers, RF
> engineers, and wireless experience... I think that if WiMAX ever
> comes to pass it will be just another technology that cell phone
> providers leverage (like 1xRTT or EVDO or GPRS or EDGE).
>
> Thoughts?
>
> -Eric

Some cities are deploying this technology. Mainly for better data
communication in the cars and trucks, Utilities trucks, police cars, and
fire trucks. They all have mobile data terminals with hellishly slow data.

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John Navas

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-14-2004, 04:28 PM

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In <41beef52$0$58275$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.ne t> on 14 Dec 2004 13:49:06
GMT, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote:

>In alt.cellular.sprintpcs John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:
>>
>> [MORE]
>
>One thing not listed and one thing that will limit its expansion is the
>high latency. Online gaming or interactive sessions could be quite
>painful.

Unlike 3G, WiMAX (802.16) is designed for relatively low latency, which should
be acceptable for VoIP, interactive sessions, and even gaming.

Latency is even lower with FLASH-OFDM technology from Flarion Technologies
(802.20), on the order of 35-50 ms, currently in field trial by Nextel.

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John Navas

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Re: "WiMAX to steal 3G and DSL market share"

Posted: 12-14-2004, 04:33 PM

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In <remud.10698$_3.123471@typhoon.sonic.net> on Fri, 10 Dec 2004 18:51:03 GMT,
John Navas <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote:

><http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/12/10/wimax_steal_market_share/>
>
> WiMAX and other new high-speed wireless technologies are likely to
> take market share from 3G as well as DSL. In a white paper research
> firm TelecomView says that WiMax will supplement and in some cases
> replace 3G, DSL and other wireline technologies to provide broadband
> services.
>
> WiMAX offers high-speed wireless data connections over a range of
> around 30 miles. The technology features both increased range and
> download speeds compared to WiFi (802.11x), which is intended to
> provide coverage over small areas. Along with WiFi, other
> fixed-wireless broadband systems currently exist, including hardware
> that can deliver services over several miles. But many of these also
> require "line of sight" between a transmitter and receiver to
> function - WiMAX does not.
>
> TelecomView estimates that WiMAX will capture more than 40 per cent
> of the wireless broadband market, leaving 3G with less than 60 per
> cent in 2009. In addition to stealing market share from 3G, the
> report suggests that WiMax will also be a threat to fixed-line
> high-speed broadband services.
>
> [MORE]

See also "WISPs blaze trail for WiMAX"
<http://www.theregister.com/2004/11/12/isps_blaze_trail_for_wimax/>

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