PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola

Posted: 11-26-2003, 04:26 PM
I thought I would start a fresh thread so that anyone involved in the world
of the Motorola 270c can see it and see we have developed our own lil
community. As most know, I had a 270c, not a Verizon sold/issueed version. I
subsequently bought the BT Module for the unit and the 270c never displayed
the Bluetooth Menu after connection (thats what is supposed to happen, upon
attaching the module the Phone will now display Bluetooth Link after
pressing MENU-SETTINGS-CONNECTION and then you should see Bluetooth Link.
FYI, if you don't then you should Turn phone off then on, and then if STILL
NOT SHOWING, Power Down- Remove Module/battery and then reattach Battery,
then Modiule and Power Up again. If after all this you do NOT see BLUETOOTH
LINK you probably belong to the 270c Firmware Without Bluetooth Capability
Club. And without telling the complete story over, in short, VERIZON has
decided to NOT support Bluetooth in the 270c so if you bought from VERIZON
it will NOT have the Bluetooth enabled Firmware and nor can you get it from
VERIZON. OK , you are now up to date.
So I sent the Phone back to Motorola to get my phones Software updated. 3
Weeks and 2 days later my phone has been returned Overnite FEDEX after a
very STERN, but not rude or loud, phone call.
Here is the status of the returned phone. I opened the phone to see the
Phone and a New Module. Module was replaced from my physical observation as
well as it says so on the invoice that states they replaced the OPTION
BOARD.(BT Module) The new SOFTWARE VErsion is 2203.01.35and ERI Version is
50019 (Found in MENU -SETTINGS-PHONE STATUS. They also replaced the front
LENS ASSY or BEZEL depending on your Phone education.LOL. Hint, I had
experienced Moto replacing the Lens on earlier repairs and always called it
Preventative Maintemance. I had requested that they replace the Lens Assy
under Preventative Maintenance if they could, and of course threw in some
Pleases and Thank You very muches. I would recommend the same to anyone,
unless sending in new phone.
Upon firing up the phone I was happy to go right to
MENU-SETTINGS-CONNECTION and BlueTooth Link was right there. Now the
Bluetooth Menu in the 270c is rather short and suite compared to my Ericsson
R250m. It goes from BLUETOOTH LINK to HANDSFREE-DEVICES-and SETUP. So I had
to experiment a bit (Manual you say?, I aint reading No Stinking Manual!)
And I got it to Pair with my R250m no problem. So I am waiting for the JABRA
FREESPEAK to charge and I will post those results of that pairing. For now,
this is long enough I bet your saying.
For those that are looking to send their phone to Motorola, I will attach my
Sending Info below again to maybe help you out.:

Reprint from earlier posting regarding sending phone to Motorola Service
Center for Repair:
In regards to Motorola, i am a retired (in term only) wireless dealer so i
am very familiar with Motorola's policies. If you have a warranty repair
(and you have POP, proof of purchase) you dont have to call Motorola
(everyone does anyway) you can just send the phone in. If you call Motorola
all they will tell you to do is the following. First, remove all accessories
from your phone including your cases, batteries (they have lots) cig cords
etc. Jot down your phones ESN or IMEI number and then wrap securely. Use
common sense, wrapping phone up in toliet paper or 3 wraps of newspaper is
not "securely".And remember, the finished package should not be able to be
shaken and the phones sliding all over the place. Bad sign!! Place your
phone in a suitable shipping container along with a letter stating the most
detailed explanation of the problem . You cannot give them too much
information. If the problem only aoccurs when your chewing Wrigleys Gum,
tell them. Then you need to include the return shipping info and contact
numbers.Make sure the ESN/IMEI number is also on this letter. Make sure you
include a COPY of the POP (Proof of purchase) with the letter as well. Make
sure they can find you while your sleeping. If they cant find you, you wont
be the first person to get your phone back after two weeks, unrepaired, with
a letter saying, " Dear Valued Customer, we tried to get a hold of you and
couldnt. So here is your phone unrepaired. It has a bad gizmoo and is not a
warranty issue. If you would like, send us the phone and $100 and we will
replace it.Thanks for buying Motorla!" Get my point!!? Then, and this is
important. Put the SERIAL/IMEI number EVERYWHERE and most important, THE
OUTSIDE OF THE SHIPPING BOX, that is imperative. Motorola receives your
phone at the repair depot by your ESN/IMEI number and Shipping TRACKING
Number. Only use a Shipper that will give a tracking number. When you call
Motorola to discuss your phone, the first question the automated attendant
wants is your phones Mobile Phone Number. From there it will go to the IMEI
for GSM phones (It does not ask for ESN on auto attendant) and then the
Shippers Tracking Number last..Always make sure the phones IMEI or ESN is
marked CLEARLY on the outside of the box as well as your complaint letter
inside the box. I cannot stress that enough. Finally send to (This reflects
some different verbage then my original posting, the actual numbers of the
address are all the same):

North America Hi-Tech Center
Cellular Door #40
5555 N. Beach Street
Fort Worth, Texas
76137

The contact number for all matters is 1-800-331-6456 Mon-Fri 7am-7pm Central
Time. If you follow the above procedure, i can assure that, at least the
delivery and correspondence facet of your repair will go smoothly



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Re: PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola
Posted: 11-28-2003, 08:26 AM
Thanks Scott,
I really thought I has accomplished something till the Prez beat me with
that trip to Baghdad, now thats an accomplishment!
First thing is it doesnt not appear to gain the Handsfree mode needed for
the BT Carkit in the ACURA so sorry about that, BUT, the 60 Second Full
Countdown does take place. In fact, not being familiar with the v270 in BT
Mode I wasnt sure I was communicating. But alas, so far, it has done EXACTLY
what it is supposed to do. I have setup Pairings with the JABRA FreeSpeak
BT250 as well as The Ericsson R250m. Also I , of course, expected it to
shorten Battery life on the 270c, but if you leave it on it's a major power
sucker on my phone. The Ericsson you dont even notice it. But I will also
say, that om the 270c the JABRA FS250 HS initiates Voice Dial with press of
Button on HS, Ericsson will not do so. (I have older Firmware on Ericsson
R2K, and while it has worked, I think Im finding that the "dont fix it if it
is not broke" theory may not work. I think Ill be sending that in next for
Firmware update. Gutsy Huh?

I am on the way this AM to take advantage of the COMP USA 6 Hour Sale and
get a Belkin BT Dongle thats $19.99 after Instant Discount and Rebate. I
have another one comming off EBAY for $8.99 and $8.99 S&H (Love that S&H
Profit Margin!) But even though I knew it was gonna be possibly LOW on the
performance Totem pole, I figured what the heck. But everything on the NET
says get a name brand and the BELKIN hasnt, at least that I have seen, been
slandered. So in a few hours I will have a technically complete Bluetooth
System , LapTop, 2 Phones and BT Headset, and be able to try and see what I
can do. I want to go with the PALM BT Card but even on EBAY thats a $50
shipped expenditure so I can use my PALM in the Bathroom (Ill buy anything
cool, but cant justify that one, I shoulda mentioned I have the Minstrel V
CDPD Modem, still, on my PALM so I cant justify BTon the PALM, yet

Scott, Let me know what else you need to know about the 270c Upgrade. Glad
to help.
Ron




"Scott in Aztlán" <slothkills@THEyahooOBVIOUS.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:02 -0500, "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote:
>
> >And I got it to Pair with my R250m no problem. So I am waiting for the

JABRA
> >FREESPEAK to charge and I will post those results of that pairing.

>
> Congratulations on your successful upgrade!
>
> And now for the Million Dollar Question: Does your "Await Link" countown

work
> correctly? I.E. When you choose Settings->Connection->Bluetooth
> Link->Setup->Await Link, do you get the full 60-second countdown like

you're
> supposed to, or does it return back to the menu after a second or so,

before the
> 60 can even count down to 59?
>
> --
> http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/



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Re: Handsfree Update, I was DUMB
Posted: 11-28-2003, 01:26 PM
As soon as you read my post you prolly said "What is up with that guy? Is he
the Stevie Wonder of Bluetooth? LOL i wasnt paying attention and as you know
it clearly says HANDSFREE on MENU. When I was typing I thought I remembered
it saying HEADSET. Now that I have rushed to clear my already tarnished
reputation in that matter, here is what is up. I just returned from being
another one of the 500 NerfBalls that was at CompUSA at 6AM. While I did
make it for the NetGear 4 Port DSL/Cable 802.11b Router for $19.99 after
Rebates (49.99 upfront) and the NetGear USB 802.11b adapter for $19.99 after
Rebates (49.99 upfront), They went like the proverbial hotcakes. people
actually fighting/grabbing. They were gone when I left at 6:35am. But the
Belkin Bluetooth USB Dongles were so not in demand they had to find them,
but not after 3 people needed to be briefed on "The Bluetooth, He is looking
for The Bluetooth Dingle". Point I am trying to make that outta all those
people, Bluetooth wasn't on anybodies mind but mine. Still an up and coming
technology. So I am configuring now. It found the Jabra FS250 and the
Ericsson r520M but still no 270c. So let me play and I will repost when
done.
NOTE: The BELKIN BT Dongle is available at the COMP USA site. As odf this
AM, they were promoting 1 Penny Shipping. It is $29.99 after the $10 instant
Rebate and has another BELKIN $10 Mail-in rebate, end cost is $19.99. While
you can see all those $10-$14.00 No Name Dongles on EBAY, they all have a
$8-$9-$10 shipping charge, bringing them to $20 Plus after shipping. They
were still available this AM (Friday 11-28 06:00) so if you want a Belkin
for $20 its there, calling you.
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"PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks Scott,
> I really thought I has accomplished something till the Prez beat me with
> that trip to Baghdad, now thats an accomplishment!
> First thing is it doesnt not appear to gain the Handsfree mode needed for
> the BT Carkit in the ACURA so sorry about that, BUT, the 60 Second Full
> Countdown does take place. In fact, not being familiar with the v270 in BT
> Mode I wasnt sure I was communicating. But alas, so far, it has done

EXACTLY
> what it is supposed to do. I have setup Pairings with the JABRA FreeSpeak
> BT250 as well as The Ericsson R250m. Also I , of course, expected it to
> shorten Battery life on the 270c, but if you leave it on it's a major

power
> sucker on my phone. The Ericsson you dont even notice it. But I will also
> say, that om the 270c the JABRA FS250 HS initiates Voice Dial with press

of
> Button on HS, Ericsson will not do so. (I have older Firmware on Ericsson
> R2K, and while it has worked, I think Im finding that the "dont fix it if

it
> is not broke" theory may not work. I think Ill be sending that in next for
> Firmware update. Gutsy Huh?
>
> I am on the way this AM to take advantage of the COMP USA 6 Hour Sale and
> get a Belkin BT Dongle thats $19.99 after Instant Discount and Rebate. I
> have another one comming off EBAY for $8.99 and $8.99 S&H (Love that S&H
> Profit Margin!) But even though I knew it was gonna be possibly LOW on the
> performance Totem pole, I figured what the heck. But everything on the NET
> says get a name brand and the BELKIN hasnt, at least that I have seen,

been
> slandered. So in a few hours I will have a technically complete Bluetooth
> System , LapTop, 2 Phones and BT Headset, and be able to try and see what

I
> can do. I want to go with the PALM BT Card but even on EBAY thats a $50
> shipped expenditure so I can use my PALM in the Bathroom (Ill buy anything
> cool, but cant justify that one, I shoulda mentioned I have the Minstrel V
> CDPD Modem, still, on my PALM so I cant justify BTon the PALM, yet
>
> Scott, Let me know what else you need to know about the 270c Upgrade. Glad
> to help.
> Ron
>
>
>
>
> "Scott in Aztlán" <slothkills@THEyahooOBVIOUS.com> wrote in message
> news:n9qasv4bcjrg9cht1kn749bjvtkpdjmq0e@4ax.com...
> > On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:02 -0500, "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote:
> >
> > >And I got it to Pair with my R250m no problem. So I am waiting for the

> JABRA
> > >FREESPEAK to charge and I will post those results of that pairing.

> >
> > Congratulations on your successful upgrade!
> >
> > And now for the Million Dollar Question: Does your "Await Link" countown

> work
> > correctly? I.E. When you choose Settings->Connection->Bluetooth
> > Link->Setup->Await Link, do you get the full 60-second countdown like

> you're
> > supposed to, or does it return back to the menu after a second or so,

> before the
> > 60 can even count down to 59?
> >
> > --
> > http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/

>
>



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Re: PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola
Posted: 12-08-2003, 10:20 PM
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:02 -0500, "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote:
>The contact number for all matters is 1-800-331-6456 Mon-Fri 7am-7pm Central
>Time. If you follow the above procedure, i can assure that, at least the
>delivery and correspondence facet of your repair will go smoothly


Then 1,1,6,3:

1 for english
1 for for wireless phones
6 for Check repair status
3 for check status on existing repair

Then:

follow the prompts....


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Re: PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola
Posted: 12-15-2003, 08:28 PM
On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:02 -0500, "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote:

>important. Put the SERIAL/IMEI number EVERYWHERE and most important, THE
>OUTSIDE OF THE SHIPPING BOX, that is imperative. Motorola receives your
>phone at the repair depot by your ESN/IMEI number and Shipping TRACKING
>Number. Only use a Shipper that will give a tracking number. When you call
>Motorola to discuss your phone, the first question the automated attendant
>wants is your phones Mobile Phone Number. From there it will go to the IMEI
>for GSM phones (It does not ask for ESN on auto attendant) and then the
>Shippers Tracking Number last..Always make sure the phones IMEI or ESN is
>marked CLEARLY on the outside of the box as well as your complaint letter
>inside the box. I cannot stress that enough. Finally send to (This reflects
>some different verbage then my original posting, the actual numbers of the
>address are all the same):
>
>North America Hi-Tech Center
>Cellular Door #40
>5555 N. Beach Street
>Fort Worth, Texas
>76137
>
>The contact number for all matters is 1-800-331-6456 Mon-Fri 7am-7pm Central
>Time. If you follow the above procedure, i can assure that, at least the
>delivery and correspondence facet of your repair will go smoothly


Well well.. I love Motorola.

I love Motorola as during the peak of our cellular business, we sent
out 10+ phones a month to repair. Half of them were returned
unrepaired "Out of warranty" even though we INCLUDED the sales
invoice. Problem was we bought a TON of phones that sat on our shelf,
so 5 months into the customers hands was actually a year from date of
manufacturer (make sense??). So we ended up paying shipping TWICE to
motorola, and had to put a nastygram attached to the invoice.. "This
is the SECOND time we're sending the phone in. SEE THE INVOICE. IT IS
UNDER WARRANTY."

So I shipped my phone in early December. Being an idiot, I neglected
to include my invoice. I called Moneyrola the next day, told them what
happened. They told me to fax a invoice. I did. I then called three
days after it was recieved, to confirm receipt. They confirmed recpt.,
I told them I wanted to make sure there wouldn't be a problem because
I heard of moneyrola doing the above. "Don't worry."
I called Wednesday of last week, "The tech is looking at the phone as
we speak. Not to worry, I once again told the story I 'heard' of
motorola sending back phones "Returned Unrepared." And what do I get
today? My phone, "returned unrepaired." I'm on the phone now with them
trying to be as polite as possible while not FUMING.

Good news: they did repair / replace the bluetooth module - the module
was broken upon reciept in that it didn't 'hinge' on one side.

Phone however, still has firmware 2001.08.bc.02.

Oh boy.. this should be fun.
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Re: PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola
Posted: 12-16-2003, 01:52 AM
Evan,
Man it hurts even more when you GO OUT OF YOUR WAY to get it right and they
blow it. As you have probably reaqd, while I finally got me phone back
right, it was a joke to finally culminate the deal. The FIRMWARE you should
receive, at least that mine came back with, is 2203.01.35. Also, am
observation, it appears that thye Module themselves can be more of the
problem then we think, as mine was replaced as well as getting the phones
Firmware upgrade.
Ron

"Evan Platt" <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 26 Nov 2003 11:26:02 -0500, "PDA Man" <pda@man.com> wrote:
>
> >important. Put the SERIAL/IMEI number EVERYWHERE and most important, THE
> >OUTSIDE OF THE SHIPPING BOX, that is imperative. Motorola receives your
> >phone at the repair depot by your ESN/IMEI number and Shipping TRACKING
> >Number. Only use a Shipper that will give a tracking number. When you

call
> >Motorola to discuss your phone, the first question the automated

attendant
> >wants is your phones Mobile Phone Number. From there it will go to the

IMEI
> >for GSM phones (It does not ask for ESN on auto attendant) and then the
> >Shippers Tracking Number last..Always make sure the phones IMEI or ESN is
> >marked CLEARLY on the outside of the box as well as your complaint letter
> >inside the box. I cannot stress that enough. Finally send to (This

reflects
> >some different verbage then my original posting, the actual numbers of

the
> >address are all the same):
> >
> >North America Hi-Tech Center
> >Cellular Door #40
> >5555 N. Beach Street
> >Fort Worth, Texas
> >76137
> >
> >The contact number for all matters is 1-800-331-6456 Mon-Fri 7am-7pm

Central
> >Time. If you follow the above procedure, i can assure that, at least the
> >delivery and correspondence facet of your repair will go smoothly

>
> Well well.. I love Motorola.
>
> I love Motorola as during the peak of our cellular business, we sent
> out 10+ phones a month to repair. Half of them were returned
> unrepaired "Out of warranty" even though we INCLUDED the sales
> invoice. Problem was we bought a TON of phones that sat on our shelf,
> so 5 months into the customers hands was actually a year from date of
> manufacturer (make sense??). So we ended up paying shipping TWICE to
> motorola, and had to put a nastygram attached to the invoice.. "This
> is the SECOND time we're sending the phone in. SEE THE INVOICE. IT IS
> UNDER WARRANTY."
>
> So I shipped my phone in early December. Being an idiot, I neglected
> to include my invoice. I called Moneyrola the next day, told them what
> happened. They told me to fax a invoice. I did. I then called three
> days after it was recieved, to confirm receipt. They confirmed recpt.,
> I told them I wanted to make sure there wouldn't be a problem because
> I heard of moneyrola doing the above. "Don't worry."
> I called Wednesday of last week, "The tech is looking at the phone as
> we speak. Not to worry, I once again told the story I 'heard' of
> motorola sending back phones "Returned Unrepared." And what do I get
> today? My phone, "returned unrepaired." I'm on the phone now with them
> trying to be as polite as possible while not FUMING.
>
> Good news: they did repair / replace the bluetooth module - the module
> was broken upon reciept in that it didn't 'hinge' on one side.
>
> Phone however, still has firmware 2001.08.bc.02.
>
> Oh boy.. this should be fun.
> To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.



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Re: PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola
Posted: 12-16-2003, 02:39 AM
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:52:09 -0500, "PDA Man" <pad@man.com> wrote:

>Evan,
>Man it hurts even more when you GO OUT OF YOUR WAY to get it right and they
>blow it. As you have probably reaqd, while I finally got me phone back
>right, it was a joke to finally culminate the deal. The FIRMWARE you should
>receive, at least that mine came back with, is 2203.01.35. Also, am
>observation, it appears that thye Module themselves can be more of the
>problem then we think, as mine was replaced as well as getting the phones
>Firmware upgrade.


Well, luckily they sent it back with a prepaid FedEx shipping
sticker... Svc rep claimed they never saw the invoice faxed in. Asked
what # I faxed it to, gave it to her. She put me on hold, came back,
told me that # doesn't ring a bell, asked where I got it. Told her
talking to rep on Friday the 5th. She looked through the notes, and
thank goodness, it WAS documented "Spoke with Evan, gave him fax
number to fax invoice."(of course the # he gave wasn't documented).
Overnighted the phone, (shipping tomorrow) and requested they expedite
repair. Enclosed BT adapter - I figure that way they can't say "Oh..
we need your BT adapter!"

Maybe it'll be back in time for Christmas.

Yeah, right.


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Re: PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola
Posted: 12-16-2003, 04:57 AM
They did Overnite my return when I stated that was "THE LEAST" they could do
after 3 weeks.

"Evan Platt" <evan@TheObvious.espphotography.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 20:52:09 -0500, "PDA Man" <pad@man.com> wrote:
>
> >Evan,
> >Man it hurts even more when you GO OUT OF YOUR WAY to get it right and

they
> >blow it. As you have probably reaqd, while I finally got me phone back
> >right, it was a joke to finally culminate the deal. The FIRMWARE you

should
> >receive, at least that mine came back with, is 2203.01.35. Also, am
> >observation, it appears that thye Module themselves can be more of the
> >problem then we think, as mine was replaced as well as getting the phones
> >Firmware upgrade.

>
> Well, luckily they sent it back with a prepaid FedEx shipping
> sticker... Svc rep claimed they never saw the invoice faxed in. Asked
> what # I faxed it to, gave it to her. She put me on hold, came back,
> told me that # doesn't ring a bell, asked where I got it. Told her
> talking to rep on Friday the 5th. She looked through the notes, and
> thank goodness, it WAS documented "Spoke with Evan, gave him fax
> number to fax invoice."(of course the # he gave wasn't documented).
> Overnighted the phone, (shipping tomorrow) and requested they expedite
> repair. Enclosed BT adapter - I figure that way they can't say "Oh..
> we need your BT adapter!"
>
> Maybe it'll be back in time for Christmas.
>
> Yeah, right.
>
>
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Re: PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola
Posted: 12-30-2003, 07:17 PM
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:57:36 -0500, "PDA Man" <pad@man.com> wrote:

>They did Overnite my return when I stated that was "THE LEAST" they could do
>after 3 weeks.


I'm still waiting for the incompetent folks at Motorola to acknowledge
they have my phone - which they recieved the 16th.

Did Motorola outsource to Mexico? We deal with Covad and their level 1
monkeys are oustourced to India. It appears Motorola outsourced to
Mexico - every time I call (and I've called a dozen or so times)I get
someone with a very heavy spanish accent - and I often have to repeat
things 3 or 4 times slowly.

Quite frustrating when you're already frustrated.
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Re: PDA Man Gets 270c & BT Module Back From Motorola
Posted: 12-30-2003, 07:54 PM
I made the same comment (careful not to disparage our latino community) when
everyone I talked to was of a latino-spanish descent and VERY VERY hard to
comprehend.(The point is not the country of origin, I could care less I only
require that you speak ENGLISH, Fluent and Comprehensible!) Finally I got
what I needed but demanding a supervisor and my phone appeared at my door
next day by FEDEX. Evan, make sure they read the complete work order
comments so you know EXACTLY whats coming back to you. I am afraid from
beginning with my experience and now yours, Motorola has a real problem.And
being they are in Texas, Mexico sure looks close as a labor source. DELL
learned with India, hope it doesnt take Motorola to long.

"Evan Platt" <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 23:57:36 -0500, "PDA Man" <pad@man.com> wrote:
>
> >They did Overnite my return when I stated that was "THE LEAST" they could

do
> >after 3 weeks.

>
> I'm still waiting for the incompetent folks at Motorola to acknowledge
> they have my phone - which they recieved the 16th.
>
> Did Motorola outsource to Mexico? We deal with Covad and their level 1
> monkeys are oustourced to India. It appears Motorola outsourced to
> Mexico - every time I call (and I've called a dozen or so times)I get
> someone with a very heavy spanish accent - and I often have to repeat
> things 3 or 4 times slowly.
>
> Quite frustrating when you're already frustrated.
> To e-mail me, remove theobvious from my e-mail address.



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