HDW-2 or HBH-35

In article <050920031012026692%whytoi@hotmail.com>, Whytoi
<whytoi@hotmail.com> writes
>In article <U$ImGIA7y6V$EwNd@iconia.org.uk>, Toby Groves
><news@iconia.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Looking to get one of the above headsets for my 6310i. Obviously the
>> Nokia will be more compatible, but I much prefer the look and feel of
>> the Ericsson.
>>
>> Does anyone know exactly how compatible the HBH-35 is with the 6310i,
>> and what issues there might be? Also, what's the minimum firmware
>> version I should be looking at on the 6310i, as I believe they made some
>> improvements to the BT support, or was that the 6310?
>
>They are BT by standard protocol. There's no "compatibility" issue.

Well the HBH-30 wouldn't initiate voice dialling on a 6310i via the
button on the headset. I'd call that a compatibility issue.

>There's a good comparative review on http://www.howardchui.com/

Ta.
--
Toby

In article <dnYkAUA18CW$EwV6@iconia.org.uk>, Toby Groves
<news@iconia.org.uk> wrote:

> Well the HBH-30 wouldn't initiate voice dialling on a 6310i via the
> button on the headset. I'd call that a compatibility issue.

Then you have an answer don't you?

It's also possible that you'll need to upgrade the firmware on either
of the two units. This sounded like a typical firmware bug.

I have the HDW-2 , has a in the face & all the rest in the store had
the same -waiting for replacement.
also disconnects & won't reconnect until turned off then on again &
sometimes will power off for no reason ( by menu or by pushing button on
front)- battery fully charged


"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
news:dnYkAUA18CW$EwV6@iconia.org.uk...
> In article <050920031012026692%whytoi@hotmail.com>, Whytoi
> <whytoi@hotmail.com> writes
> >In article <U$ImGIA7y6V$EwNd@iconia.org.uk>, Toby Groves
> ><news@iconia.org.uk> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Looking to get one of the above headsets for my 6310i. Obviously the
> >> Nokia will be more compatible, but I much prefer the look and feel of
> >> the Ericsson.
> >>
> >> Does anyone know exactly how compatible the HBH-35 is with the 6310i,
> >> and what issues there might be? Also, what's the minimum firmware
> >> version I should be looking at on the 6310i, as I believe they made
some
> >> improvements to the BT support, or was that the 6310?
> >
> >They are BT by standard protocol. There's no "compatibility" issue.
>
> Well the HBH-30 wouldn't initiate voice dialling on a 6310i via the
> button on the headset. I'd call that a compatibility issue.
>
> >There's a good comparative review on http://www.howardchui.com/
>
> Ta.
> --
> Toby

Right, the first thing is make sure your 6310i is running firmware release
5.50 or above (press *#0000# to find this). If not youre going to have poor
quality voice, low range and all the problems mentioned here (disconnecting,
wont reconnect etc).

If you havnt, dont bother with any BT device.

Now, the headsets, ive tried them both. The Nokia one is by far the smallest
and IMHO the sexiest, however its not the most comfortable for most, for me
its not to bad and can happily use if for an hour before it hurts. The only
other problem is the earloop design, most out there have a devective design,
the earloops break real easy. Nokia will replace these but you have to take
the broken on into a service centre, and then they swap it. The new design
looks just the same but works better. All new units have this, ive however
bought 3 from www.mobilefun.co.uk just in case.

Function wise, no faults, performs well, connects and disconnects fine (if
you follow the instructions). The most common mistake people make is turning
the headset on, then the phone. Must be phone, then headset, connects each
time.

The volume could be better but as yet hasnt been too quiet (driving on
motorway and all that). In noisy environments could be too quiet but not had
that yet.

I like it. Another good buy would be the Jabra BT200. Rave reviews, full
6310i compatibility (again, you need the firmware on the phone) and good
build quality, also cheaper.

I recommend you try them first.

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"IInet new server" <omega99@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> I have the HDW-2 , has a in the face & all the rest in the store had
> the same -waiting for replacement.
> also disconnects & won't reconnect until turned off then on again &
> sometimes will power off for no reason ( by menu or by pushing button on
> front)- battery fully charged
>
>
> "Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:dnYkAUA18CW$EwV6@iconia.org.uk...
> > In article <050920031012026692%whytoi@hotmail.com>, Whytoi
> > <whytoi@hotmail.com> writes
> > >In article <U$ImGIA7y6V$EwNd@iconia.org.uk>, Toby Groves
> > ><news@iconia.org.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Looking to get one of the above headsets for my 6310i. Obviously the
> > >> Nokia will be more compatible, but I much prefer the look and feel of
> > >> the Ericsson.
> > >>
> > >> Does anyone know exactly how compatible the HBH-35 is with the 6310i,
> > >> and what issues there might be? Also, what's the minimum firmware
> > >> version I should be looking at on the 6310i, as I believe they made
> some
> > >> improvements to the BT support, or was that the 6310?
> > >
> > >They are BT by standard protocol. There's no "compatibility" issue.
> >
> > Well the HBH-30 wouldn't initiate voice dialling on a 6310i via the
> > button on the headset. I'd call that a compatibility issue.
> >
> > >There's a good comparative review on http://www.howardchui.com/
> >
> > Ta.
> > --
> > Toby
>
>

In article <3f58ae8b$0$23613$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au >, IInet new
server <omega99@iinet.net.au> writes
>I have the HDW-2 , has a in the face & all the rest in the store had
>the same -waiting for replacement.
>also disconnects & won't reconnect until turned off then on again &
>sometimes will power off for no reason ( by menu or by pushing button on
>front)- battery fully charged

Hmm, doesn't sound very promising.

Although I've never tried it, my main problems with the HDW-2 were
twofold. Firstly, it looks very cheap and nasty compared to the
Ericssons, IMO, and secondly I'm concerned about it's ability to pick up
your voice in a noisy environment, as the mic is so far away from your
mouth.
--
Toby

In article <050920031846086989%whytoi@hotmail.com>, Whytoi
<whytoi@hotmail.com> writes
>In article <dnYkAUA18CW$EwV6@iconia.org.uk>, Toby Groves
><news@iconia.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Well the HBH-30 wouldn't initiate voice dialling on a 6310i via the
>> button on the headset. I'd call that a compatibility issue.
>
>Then you have an answer don't you?

No I don't, I'm asking about the HBH-35, not the HBH-30. I want to know
if such incompatibilities have been corrected.

>It's also possible that you'll need to upgrade the firmware on either
>of the two units. This sounded like a typical firmware bug.

The way I heard it, the voice-dialling activation was a proprietary
Nokia protocol which the Ericsson headsets wouldn't support, in which
case a firmware update wouldn't be likely to fix the problem.
--
Toby

In article <Qi56b.7822$Ci1.1179820@newsfep2-win.server.ntli.net>, Buzz-
Lightyear <abuse@yahoo.com> writes
>Right, the first thing is make sure your 6310i is running firmware release
>5.50 or above (press *#0000# to find this). If not youre going to have poor
>quality voice, low range and all the problems mentioned here (disconnecting,
>wont reconnect etc).
>
>If you havnt, dont bother with any BT device.
>
>Now, the headsets, ive tried them both. The Nokia one is by far the smallest
>and IMHO the sexiest, however its not the most comfortable for most, for me
>its not to bad and can happily use if for an hour before it hurts. The only
>other problem is the earloop design, most out there have a devective design,
>the earloops break real easy. Nokia will replace these but you have to take
>the broken on into a service centre, and then they swap it. The new design
>looks just the same but works better. All new units have this, ive however
>bought 3 from www.mobilefun.co.uk just in case.
>
>Function wise, no faults, performs well, connects and disconnects fine (if
>you follow the instructions). The most common mistake people make is turning
>the headset on, then the phone. Must be phone, then headset, connects each
>time.
>
>The volume could be better but as yet hasnt been too quiet (driving on
>motorway and all that). In noisy environments could be too quiet but not had
>that yet.
>
>I like it. Another good buy would be the Jabra BT200. Rave reviews, full
>6310i compatibility (again, you need the firmware on the phone) and good
>build quality, also cheaper.
>
>I recommend you try them first.

Many thanks for all the advice. Regards firmware, I have 5.10, so I
think I'll need to get this sorted. The phone is only 10 months old, so
I should be able to get my local service centre to upgrade it if I moan
about problems with BT devices.
--
Toby

I've just done a test this evening comparing 2 HDW-2 headsets with a HBH-35
headset. I called my wife at the other side of the house on our home phone
to find out how good they are in both directions and the HBH-35 was MUCH
clearer and sharper than the Nokia headset (in both directions) + walking
away from the headset showed that the range before the voice started
breaking up was about 5 metres instead of about 2 metres with the Nokia.
Both Nokia's performed the same so that ruled out a faulty unit. I've also
found the sound quality using the HDW-2 in the car to be very poor in both
directions - main problem being the voice breaks up but also the sound is
very muffled.

The HBH-35 is also much more comfortable on the ear and voice activated
dialing DOES work with it (unlike the HBH-30). In also has a mute
function - unlike the HDW-2. The main downside I can see of the HBH-35 is
that you need to use a separate charger both in the house/office and in the
car. Also, I found the controls a bit more awkward to use and the mike
flops around a bit.

Overall, I think the HBH-35 is the better one of the 2 since the sound
quality has to be the most important factor. However, I'm going to try the
HBH-60 against the HBH-35 before making a decision (I make sure I buy them
from somewhere I can return them to within 14 days by the way since it is
impossible to judge them in a shop!). I've seen some advice on the L8Shop
website that the HBH-60 doesn't work well in the car because the mike is
very sensitive - is this true?

"Toby Groves" <news@iconia.org.uk> wrote in message
news:U$ImGIA7y6V$EwNd@iconia.org.uk...
> Hi,
>
> Looking to get one of the above headsets for my 6310i. Obviously the
> Nokia will be more compatible, but I much prefer the look and feel of
> the Ericsson.
>
> Does anyone know exactly how compatible the HBH-35 is with the 6310i,
> and what issues there might be? Also, what's the minimum firmware
> version I should be looking at on the 6310i, as I believe they made some
> improvements to the BT support, or was that the 6310?
>
> TIA
> --
> Toby